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Yeah, in many companies, its regrettably a difficult relationship between the development and QA teams. It should be entirely collaborative, but can (unfortunately) so easily become adversarial.
I think it most often arises when companies de-value the benefits of QA.
Regrettably, many companies have two cultures: the actual culture and the aspirational culture shared in "feel-good" presentations. In the aspirational culture, the company values QA and factors in time for developers to support it. In the actual culture, it is often the opposite.
Unfortunately, as developers, we often have almost no clear requirements prior to a task. We often find ourselves simultaneously developing both the requirements and the code. As a consequence, we often have nothing concrete to share with QA until after the code is completed.
Comically, we are frequently not allowed any time, even when the code is completed, to write up information/documentation. This leaves QA with inadequate information to do their job. And, perhaps even more worrying, leaves customers in a similar situation.
The problem is sometimes worsened by ill-advised methodologies that require QA to begin testing simultaneous with the process of coding. It is absolutely possible to design tests for something with clear requirements, before coding is completed. It is similarly possible to be "agile" and start coding with unclear requirements. It is not possible to do both. This is simply fallacious thinking.
Sometimes, this leads to friction between the development and QA teams, since we are given competing agendas by the company. This can result in development misdirecting frustration at QA and vice-versa. They are simply both put in a bad situation by their company.
My guess is that sort of disconnect between aspirational and actual company goals, for development and QA, will always exist. Its simply too seductive for companies to chase short term gains at the expense of long term success. Regrettably, team cohesion and morale are the predictable casualties of that approach.
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I only worked for small firms that had a you build it, you test it policy. It is more fun to get the software look at and think if I was a user I would try this... The issue was there was no QA then it started to grow...
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Left one by company entrance (7)
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Scrotum.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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You left your scrotum by the company entrance? Wow, that was a Saturday night... 
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And the best about it is that it makes me laugh every single time. I'll never grow up.
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Sounds like I see inside Portuguese city balcony (7)
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Could be ... I take it you don't want to do it tomorrow? 
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Ah, I know the answer now. Tom's clue made it really easy, and it fits you clue perfectly... Personally I think that qualifies as the correct answer from Tom
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It's only a correct answer if you say the word - but Tom did, so he's up tomorrow. 
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I think you win. The answer is now very obvious after your clue, so it's basically like you answered it... right?
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Ok I'm up for tomorrow. Will be after a wine tasting though so it might be a bit messy 
left = port
one = i
by company = co
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Is the correct answer! 
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So the correct answer is an estate agent in London, are you moving to a place with less sheep Griff?
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Mark Parity wrote: London, are you moving to a place with less sheep Griff?
London is full of sheep... they just prefer to be called "hipsters"
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Nah - if I was moving to england, I'd feel obliged to use Hotblack Desiato[^]
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Hi CPians (specially the US-CPians),
I have two questionsw about pruchasing US-Software.
if a website shows a price for a software license on it, is it usually brutto or netto?
And if it is netto, how much % do I have to add to know the brutto price (what I actually will have to pay)?
Thank you in advance.
M.D.V. 
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The price displayed does not include tax or shipping. Add it to your cart and you'll see whatever tax will be charged.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Add it to your cart and you'll see whatever tax will be charged
I tried it... but it just says "TBD". I suppose it comes in the last step before ordering, but I don't want to register only to know how much taxes come.
M.D.V.
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Sales taxes are levied by your state and the % varies by state. If a company has a presence in your state, they charge your state's sales tax. So, for some states, they don't collect anything. My state has a sales and usage tax, so expects to collect a tax if you buy on line.
Edit: My guess is that, if you are not in US, they will not collect a tax. IANATL
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theoldfool wrote: if you are not in US,
No I am not, I am in Europe.
It is a license that once purchased I donwload it directly. So theoretically no shipping needed.
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You might even want to contact their purchasing department as there may be use or import taxes/duties as opposed to sales taxes, not to mention export restrictions. Many software companies will work with an international distributor so they don't have to deal with all these intricacies, so you may be redirected to another site to complete the purchase.
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That's exactly what I did.
Thanks anyone answering.
M.D.V.
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Thanks for answering.
I went for direct contact.
M.D.V.
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