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honey the codewitch10-Dec-19 18:06

10-Dec-19 18:06

If anything I just gave people less of a reason to write any code in VB. Just write it in Slang and translate it. That way you can stick to C#

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Super Lloyd10-Dec-19 18:10

10-Dec-19 18:10

Phew.. I feared the worst for a moment! Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

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honey the codewitch10-Dec-19 18:15

10-Dec-19 18:15

Frankly, I'd be more interested in rendering to F# than VB but their CodeDOM is new and still dodgy so I haven't been able to build it.

I can try the nuget package again now that I moved away from .NET standard/code (there are codedom dependency issues I could bore you with)

But eventually i'll have it rendering in other languages too. It's just that VB and C# are what are shipped with .NET so it's what I have installed.

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Super Lloyd10-Dec-19 18:25

10-Dec-19 18:25

Well... you can always try C++/CLI?! It's supported by .NET Core 3.1! Big Grin | :-D

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honey the codewitch10-Dec-19 18:26

10-Dec-19 18:26

It's probably possible to build a CodeDOM renderer for it but I'd be more inclined to build a CodeDOM renderer for IL.

Any C++ code rendered from the CodeDOM will be hopelessly OO and crappy for C++

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Super Lloyd10-Dec-19 18:40

10-Dec-19 18:40

honey the codewitch wrote:
It's probably possible to build a CodeDOM renderer for it but I'd be more inclined to build a CodeDOM renderer for IL.

Go Go Go!

Could it become and easier way to write IL?! OMG | :OMG:

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honey the codewitch10-Dec-19 18:41

10-Dec-19 18:41

Actually yes. Combined with slang it would let you write IL in a C# subset.

However, it wouldn't support generating all IL instructions, and you can do the same thing with a real C# compiler + IL Spy

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Super Lloyd10-Dec-19 18:47

10-Dec-19 18:47

honey the codewitch wrote:
and you can do the same thing with a real C# compiler + IL Spy

yeah, that's why I do, once every few years.. and then I forget all I learn doing it! Blush | :O

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Sander Rossel10-Dec-19 21:30

Sander Rossel

10-Dec-19 21:30

honey the codewitch wrote:
Just write it in Slang and translate it

Yo, sup honey? How 'bout you add dem numbers, yo!

Translating...

int Add(int a, int b)
{
    return a + b;
}

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Richard Deeming11-Dec-19 1:01

Richard Deeming

11-Dec-19 1:01

Where's the CodeDOM provider for LOLCODE[^]? Laugh | :laugh:

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Daniel Pfeffer11-Dec-19 2:04

Daniel Pfeffer

11-Dec-19 2:04

honey the codewitch wrote:
Just write it in Slang and translate it

Why bother translating it? Are there any constructs that exist in VB and are not available in C#?

(I thought that you were writing a code translator that makes CodeDom easier to use, not a C#-to-VB translator.)

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honey the codewitch11-Dec-19 2:09

11-Dec-19 2:09

Because my code generation tools don't dictate what language you have to generate the code in.

My code generators are not C# only.

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Jörgen Andersson10-Dec-19 18:34

Jörgen Andersson

10-Dec-19 18:34

honey the codewitch wrote:
But I feel pretty cool right now

You should.
I don't know codedom, and don't think I will get the reason to, but if it's anything similar to learning expressions I can appreciate the level of your achievement.

I'm quite convinced I couldn't have done it in the time you have. If at all.

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honey the codewitch10-Dec-19 18:37

10-Dec-19 18:37

In some ways it's similar territory. However,

Expressions lib in .NET only handles expressions, not statements, nor type, field and method declarations. It also renders to IL.

The codedom does not render to IL (though i'm thinking of making a codedom for that) but it renders to one of X target languages (stock C# or VB but extensible), and it handles expressions, statements, types - basically entire groups of code "files" meant for the compiler.

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Richard Deeming11-Dec-19 1:10

Richard Deeming

11-Dec-19 1:10

honey the codewitch wrote:
Expressions lib in .NET only handles expressions, not statements

True when they were first introduced in .NET 3.5, but .NET 4.0 added support for statement blocks.
Expression.Block Method (System.Linq.Expressions) | Microsoft Docs[^]
Generating Dynamic Methods with Expression Trees in Visual Studio 2010 | C# FAQ[^]
Expression API Cookbook[^]

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honey the codewitch11-Dec-19 2:08

11-Dec-19 2:08

That's cool. Still, I can't render whole programs with it.

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Jörgen Andersson11-Dec-19 4:19

Jörgen Andersson

11-Dec-19 4:19

Ha, I bet you could if you tried hard enough.
Yes, it would probable be the wrong tool. But still... Smile | :)

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Forogar 11-Dec-19 3:36

Forogar

11-Dec-19 3:36

Could you make a version that I could write something in Fortran-77 and convert it to C#? Wink | ;)

I only ask because I used to really enjoy writing in FORTRAN in the old days, but perhaps that was more because of what I was writing than what I was writing it in, hmmm... (An expert system for flight test analysis of jet fighters - whooooosh!) Cool | :cool:

Not really serious - just wondering.

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honey the codewitch11-Dec-19 3:38

11-Dec-19 3:38

Probably not. The trouble is the runtime libraries are entirely different. If it weren't for .net languages all sharing the same BCL this wouldn't be feasible at all.

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Forogar 11-Dec-19 3:51

Forogar

11-Dec-19 3:51

I wasn't really serious (but..?).

I am very impressed with your project as, I think, many other here are.

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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz11-Dec-19 4:31

TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

11-Dec-19 4:31

My condolences. Poke tongue | ;-P

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dandy7211-Dec-19 9:19

dandy72

11-Dec-19 9:19

The more I read about your endeavors (and better yet, accomplishments), the more I'm wondering why you're not on MS's payroll, showing them how to make VS not suck so much.

Although I do understand you were with them for a while...?

honey the codewitch11-Dec-19 9:20

11-Dec-19 9:20

Yeah I was. I was actually on the visual studio team for about 9 months.

I wrote some of the codegen stuff, but then it got changed a bunch and dumbed down, IMO.

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dandy7211-Dec-19 9:25

dandy72

11-Dec-19 9:25

You sure have found your niche, and I wish I still had the drive to see personal side-projects through like you do.

Or are you employed in some field that requires this sort of thing?

honey the codewitch11-Dec-19 9:33