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Being from the US and not following rugby, how are the Scots doing? My great grandmother was from there.
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I just spent over an hour fixing some custom DateTime TextBox that only worked if the system clock was in a specific Dutch format (both CurrentCulture and CurrentUICulture had to match) 
I'm sure it all works at the customer (for now), but as a developer I prefer having my OS in English because it's more Googleable.
And I REALLY don't know what to make of this 
smtp.Send(mail)
For n = 1 To 10
Thread.Sleep(500)
Application.DoEvents()
NextI wanted to apply the boy scout rule, but that's a full time job
There's new work (and a new customer) in it for me though.
Probably a new web or mobile application hosted in Azure 
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Application.DoEvents() is used to keep a Winforms GUI responsive, otherwise in a tight loop it will freeze.
Agree with you on the English Windows version, just can't stand Windows Dutch translation 
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I know what DoEvents does, but why would you need it in the first place?
And in a loop?
With a Thread.Sleep?
I should add that the class in which it is used is not even a Form.
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My bet is that the SMTP method runs asynchronously and they wanted to make sure it goes through before the code goes on.
Could be worse, I've inherited a code base that crashes when compiled in release build, works only in debug build. Thankfully, I am rid of it now.
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Then he should put that send mail call in an async method and prevent user from sending another mail or closing the program before it's done.
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I suppose that's kinda the point of the loop in the first place: To prevent the user from doing anything else in the meantime.
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Yes but user should be still allowed to do stuffs such as clicking on menus or continue typing. Using async method gives user smooth experience. While using thread.sleep and window.doevents continuously wont be smooth, I believe.
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For starters, I don't mean to defend the code. It's a clear code smell and should be restructured to be asynchronous proper.
That said, it can be smooth depending on the interaction rate. No process in computing ever is smooth in reality, it's just granular on a fine-enough scale to make us, slow-reacting meatbags, think, it's smooth. In gaming, 60 FPS are, as a rule of thumb, pretty enough to make things feel smooth so if the application processes messages 60 times per second, that would feel smooth despite doing busy-wait-nonsense.
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That smtp call followed by the loop stinks of a VB6 port. I had to write garbage like this in VB6.
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Quote: And I REALLY don't know what to make of this
Simple: it's a chunk of code which says "I have absolutely no idea what the ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) I'm doing".
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Did somebody also comment out code, then leave it to be checked into the repository? That's a sure sign too.
yes, I deal with that on a daily basis.
Them: "What if we ever change the repository? Then we lose all that history!"
Me: "Who * cares? The application should support the business rules at this point in time. If those ever change, we need to understand how to make the application work differently, and write that code. Having this clutter around just makes the code less readable."
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happy to hear it's not just me. I'm okay with commenting out code and forgetting about it - we all do it from time to time. HOWEVER, having multiple levels of commented out code so that you can see the history (yet we're using svn...), yeah, that's either stupid or a bad habit.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Seems like it would be a very unresponsive message pump, given the half second interval between processing events.
Explorans limites defectum
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At least emailing is something that the user expects to take a few moments...
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"Application.DoEvents" ... i remember that one well; it was a mantra we used to sprinkle liberally on VB code (the dinosaur VB of the late neolithic, that is) when things got weird (and, they always got weird).
«One day it will have to be officially admitted that what we have christened reality is an even greater illusion than the world of dreams.» Salvador Dali
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It could be worse in case of c++...
I faced the situation when inherited from a class which implement a method "Sleep".
For a lazy implementation while inheriting from that class I called Sleep in the assumption I'm calling the W32 Sleep. But instead of, it ended in something like this:
for (i = 0; i < 5; i++)
{
ProcessMessages();
::Sleep(0.2 * cnMilliseconds);
ProcessMessages();
}
I could kill that beast
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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I've come across C++ code where you would see several sleeps in a row just to "resolve" a timing issue.
sleep(0);
sleep(0);
sleep(0);
sleep(0);
sleep(0);
Of course after the code was properly debugged I was able to eliminate all of the sleep(0) lines.
Kelly Herald
Software Developer
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Some smtp systems don't like receiving too many send requests too close together, so you got to spread them out if say sending bulk individualized email.
(if you're relying on your ISP's mail handlers to send they purposely force inter-message delays to avoid spammers - often they'll let 5-10 go but then force you to wait before the next one will be allowed.)
I dealt with such myself for a client, needed to send monthly billing invoices (tens to few hundreds each day). Luckily in my case this ran overnight [batch job] so while I did have to incorporate a single (not loop of) 1/2 second sleep between messages.
Actually I could reduce that down to 1/10th second, but being overnight why ride the edge? I didn't want to push it and get bitten by say network spikes etc - at 1/2 sec worst possible case would be couple of hours.
As to doing it in a loop (not defending it, just saying) - amateurish way to enable easier tuning i.e. "perhaps 9 loops of 450 will still be OK" ... big-wheel-small-wheel tuning. Something like the [old non digital] radios that have 2 tuning knobs: "tuning" & "fine tuning."
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However, notice that the SMTP call is NOT in the loop 
It's just a single email, unless it's called from within a loop (which happens at least once, but at least three times it's just a single email).
So... I guess it may be what you're saying, but handled very poorly? 
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or this is a method called from within another loop [that is preparing the messages]?
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I prefer the projects that have been going for a few years, and which has had multiple developers. You learn more from a brownfield than from a greenfield. Some applications contain more man-hours in knowledge than I can afford to spend.
So, you might not enjoy that particular work, but that's not a good generic reason for everyone to decline such an inheritance (which is what the title seemed to suggest to me).
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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"brownfield"?!
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