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I remember that! The place looked like a sty after all the folks scrambled out of there.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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They had to go into hock to get the money to fix the place.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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You ain't ribbin' me, are ya?
/ravi
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Me? No, it's snout in my nature.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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True, I didn't figure you were loin.
/ravi
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When I lied as a kid, ma would give me a swift kick in the butt.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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If it's an appropriate time to paws for refreshment.
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I can't bear these jokes 
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Ask Chris and one of the hamsters, and maybe you can all go for a beer -- you an' Chris an' 'im all together.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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It's the kind of story that seems to pop up again and again - government outsources a moderately challenging but very solvable problem to a consulting firm, and the firm fails to deliver a working solution despite being paid handsomely.
It reminds me a bit of Healthcare.gov in the US; hundreds of consultants couldn't deliver a performant solution even with a budget in the billions of dollars. A much smaller team came in and replaced the slow bits using Node.js running on AWS.
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You could also reference the Queensland health debacle, also created by IBM. They were the only ones paid hansomly, the medical staff had to make do while they failed to fix it.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Twice today 'Ur (the name of my latest beast desktop) has gone into a strange state I have not experienced before where if I try and launch other apps, like Chrome, the launch fails with no message; I open the Control Panel folder but Win never finishes enumerating the items and never shows any icons; I hit cntrl-del, but Task Manager doesn't launch.
The pop-up that has this message about "maintenance" has a button that supposedly should take me to the Action Center, but, hey, that doesn't work either.
First thoughts that go through me head: malware; or, Win10 install sneakaroo somehow infiltrated my defenses.
I am the only person that can use this machine.
So, I reboot, run a complete virus/malware scan: all clean. I open the Action Center and the only information I can see is that it says that Windows was not shut down properly ... well, yeah, I did that because ... I had to. Last Windows update was last week, and I have been religious about not installing the nag-install-10 KB's.
D#mn ... where'd I put my defibrillator ?
Thoughts ?
thanks, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Does this only happen when you are trying to launch Chrome? Are there any services/apps running that shouldn't (if you are able to see them anyway)?
My first thought was a dead-lock or (because of the neverending enumeration) a continuous/multiple launch of new instances of an app which slows down the system.
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Thanks for your thoughts, I was, indeed, locked-out of launching all apps; I couldn't even shut the computer down, or re-start.
Since I couldn't access the Task Manager, or the Action Manager, I had no way to look at what was happening internally.
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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You're welcome!
Did you solve the issue? I'm just a bit curious 
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Don't Hit Save - It Works On My Computer[^]
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Good one! I appreciate the sarcasm! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Unfortunately, I have known developers that take that attitude and think "works on my computer" is a valid answer. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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yup. Works on my computer is the sort of problem that generates the most profanity while trying to troubleshoot because it generally means I can't see what's happening when it fails in a debugger.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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RyanDev wrote: Unfortunately, I have known developers that take that attitude and think "works on my computer" is a valid answer.
Not only developers...
I had once a project (budget almost in 7 0s), a 6 axle robot involved to handle the product... at certain point of programing and teaching the robot:
- Me: That is not reachable. I can't get the product over there
- Chief mechanical constructor (cmc): Yes it is, I have simulated everything and it works on my computer
- Me: I don't think it is possible, please tell me how to do the motion to get in there because I can't see it
more than 5 hours later
- CMC: It is not possible, the simulation was fine, someone has made a huge mistake while building this up
- Me: Probably, can you please show me your simulation?
Getting to the office and some "!§%$&"§(%!(/ later, he starts to show me the simulations in his CAD software.
- CMC: See? The robot has plenty space to get into the area
- Me: Ehhmmmm... Not sure if I am missing anything but... where is the gripper (780 mm long x 110 mm wide)?
He had simulated everything using only the basic shape of the robot, no tools at all.
2 Weeks work doing mechanical adjustments / moving pieces all over the line.
Next 6 months he dropped the eyes down everytime I came in the same room.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Let's start with this statement:
I am really impressed on how stable the code is and how good it [the app] looks.
Followed by:
We are hedging our bets that we have smart young guys who want to own it [their code]. Both did not want to own [your] code base. That was the major problem. I see your code and see the pub/sub pattern. I see some other things as well and I don’t believe it is the best approach for… ability for others to maintain...
OK, so my architecture results in a really stable app, but the new kiddies don't want to learn it (none of them know C#), and the CTO thinks it's not the best approach.
W T F.
Over the years, I've developed both architectural concepts and actual implementation that is the bread and butter of how I code. However, as this Insider News[^] got me to realize, certainly the CTO doesn't go beyond the basics, and certainly the kiddies (having been one myself once) have no clue as to architecture concepts like services, modules, publisher/subscriber patterns, semantic types, type-based programming, etc.
The ironic thing is, most of these concepts I learned 30 years ago in the days of DOS, where we wrote an application using a publisher/subscriber pattern (C++) to handle UI and hardware events and log the stuff. Two things resulted: 1) we discovered QA was often in error when describing what they did (the logs showed otherwise), and 2) we created the most stable app because we engineered it. Those lessons have lived with me since then.
Software engineering seems dead, and one of the axes that has dismembered it are programming languages like Ruby, Python, Javascript and the whole duck-typed paradigm.
And as you probably know, from my other rants, what are they writing it in? Python, with F# (of all things) for the pieces that MUST use .NET.
Marc
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