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Ah! So I did ... bear with me while I think of something.
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How many letters?
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It is obviously 6! (![Java | [Coffee]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif) )
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I'm in New Zealand again. I've been here since last Thursday. I purchased a prepaid sim card from the major network (starting with V) which gave me phone calls and 100mb. It was working well last week but this morning when I tried to use the internet I found no service present. I rang the service line and was told there had been a "system downgrade" which is obviously the euphemism used here for crash and unfortunately I no longer had internet. This had been masked for a couple of days because I had been using the wifi provided at our accommodation. Obviously I suggested they reverse the system downgrade. Its been a long weekend and the lady suggested I call the technical support tomorrow. Let's see how that pans out.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
modified 23-Oct-17 4:27am.
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V - IMDb
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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More likely... V for Vendetta (2005) - IMDb[^]
Skipper: We'll fix it.
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Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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the movie was great, i personally like that kind of movies.
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pwasser wrote: I'm in New Zealand .... I rang the service line and was told there had been a "system downgrade"
errr, range the service line why? You already answered the question.
good on the kiwi's to be big enough to admit it, the Aussie system is even older (and yes: hence worse) but the people there still believe their telco is world class and 56k is 'maxed out light speed.'
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You do realise that Peter is an Aussie, even if he is a Sandgroper.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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oh, so he was expecting an upgrade then.
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Lopatir wrote: You already answered the question.
Which question? I wanted to know what happened to my internet access and whether it would come back. In general internet speeds in NZ are excellent.
As for Australia there is no point comparing a country with 25mill people in 7.5mill sq km with another having 5mill in 700 sq km.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Why O why am I forced to accept more and more crap from MICROSOFT! Since updating to win 10, I lost the handy Paint program in which you could paste and edit screen shots, into something that claims to be 3D! Far more complex altogether! I never wanted that crap from them.
I was perfectly happy with the XP interface. Why did this need to change! Win 10 makes an effort, which is as much about loosing face, as about anything else!
I manage a suite of software which has had extremely few user interface changes in the last 15 years. Every User Interface change has a follow on effect of changing of training manuals, up to the setting up of training sessions. It is something we cannot justify to our clients.
Our software does not connect to the internet, and runs happily under WIN 98 or Win XP, without any Service Packs.
Now I understand that 'Under the Hood' changes were needed, to deal with all sorts of new security threats. What I do not understand is, why this needed a new User Interface.
Now as the Mobile Phone effort is being burried, can we please get rid of all those compulsary and hatefull Apps in Win10. Horses for Courses!
Regards,
Bram van Kampen
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Um. "Search button" "paint" - "Paint Desktop app" click.
And there it is.
Don't expect MS to go back to Win 7 or earlier - they aren't good at the "OK, we made a mistake, let's drop that and go back" bit: see the execrable Clippy and Ribbon...
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In Win10 there is an app called "Snipping Tool" built in that does screenshots better than paint does/did.
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Windows + PrtScn. Works for me.
Okay, I get it, never mind. 
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.
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Bloody hell Bram if MS just changed the things that needed to be done (they have not managed to achieve this feat EVER) how are they supposed to justify releasing and charging for a new version every year or so.
Your problem is that you have not trained your users to expect a regular upgrade with new features and don't give me any crap about if it ain't broke, MS are experts at breaking existing systems.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Bram van Kampen wrote: I manage a suite of software which has had extremely few user interface changes in the last 15 years. Every User Interface change has a follow on effect of changing of training manuals, up to the setting up of training sessions. It is something we cannot justify to our clients.
How much training have you had to understand the UI of MS-Paint? A textbox behaves exactly as expected, regardless of your application - it should not even need a manual nor a training session.
Bram van Kampen wrote: Our software does not connect to the internet, and runs happily under WIN 98 or Win XP, without any Service Packs.
With those OSes it would be very unwise to connect to the internet.
Bram van Kampen wrote: What I do not understand is, why this needed a new User Interface.
Same reason why car-models change. If it doesn't look new, no one will spend money on it. So, the user made that choice with their money, not the devs
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Today, I will be tasked with the burden of reinstalling Windows on one of my home PCs. I refuse to got o Win10, and will be reinstalling Win7. Mostly because it's a known environment in which all of my software functions reasonably well. I have absolutely no compelling reason to "upgrade" to Win10.
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I did this the other day. Yay, Windows 7!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Or Paint.NET[^], which has more features.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I've had to learn to launch it by typing "mspaint" in the start menu, rather than just "paint". Then after that first time, going back to typing "paint" includes it in the search results. Tons of options to also pin it just about anywhere.
Same deal with IE, they now go out of their way to hide it in favor of Edge, but it's still there and there's plenty of ways you can create shortcuts to it everywhere.
In other words: Meh.
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