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Kevin Marois wrote: With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?
I continue to use TFVC hosted at Microsoft. I'm allergic to Git (which is what I use at work).
/ravi
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Can you add new projects? My VS2017 won't let me use anything but Git
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Here's what I do:
- Create the project in the web interface (and select TFVC as the version control system).
- Create your solution using VStudio but don't "Add to source control".
- In VStudio, use Source Control Explorer to add your solution folder to the TFVC project.
- In VStudio, do File | Source Control | Advanced | Change Source Control and set the solution's source control bindings to the TFVC project.
After doing this, I work in VStudio as usual and check out and check in the solution's files normally.
/ravi
modified 30-Nov-19 18:43pm.
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I like Visual SVN. Free and works a treat.
My SVN repositories are on my own Windows server down "at the shop" because I'm a control enthusiast.
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I send SVN, i've been using it for many years.
I've started to use GIT and can't decide if I like it or not. Still use SVN as backup though!
They call me different but the truth is they're all the same!
JaxCoder.com
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Keep in mind that Git is a service. It is not solely supplied or hosted by Microsoft. They just own GitHub but there are also other sites that host Git servers. At work we use Bitbucket and they host both Git and Mercurial repositories. They also have both free and commercial accounts available. That's the only one I am somewhat familiar with and there are several others.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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sourcegear..
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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Kevin Marois wrote: and I DON'T WANT GIT
I used to hate GIT, but that was when I had to use the command line, which is incomprehensible. I now use SmartGit as the front end, and I'm quite pleased with the ease of creating branches, stashing stuff away to be applied later, merging branches, etc. I've never had a problem with it, and SmartGit's graph of branches is probably one of the more readable ones I've seen, not that I ever even look at those things when working solo on a project.
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I use SVN and TortoiseSVN as the UI at work - they seem to be fine for what I need(creating branches, patches, merging etc).
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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AHH, you gonna make me that person!!1!
Sorry ahead of time if just want some alternative.
Are the fears you have with GIT from personal experience of what you have read and been told?
My history: 4 years in software, some SVN used. Start using GIT on new project. 2 years go by with very little issue of a team of 3 people.
Get a new hire and in the first week things start breaking. Release went out which replaced a fix and compile time issues.
Cause: new hire was using command line to do all their GIT commits/pulls/push/sync.
Me just let them do their thing.
Another week, I cannot help them, because my command line experience of GIT is minimal.
This person claimed years of experience with GIT and blaming the team for doing it wrong, that their way was right.
Also did not help that they decided to rewrite much of the existing code in their style without checking if this was acceptable or what the requirements of those existing components were.
to end this rant: GIT is a tool.
First understand your CURRENT workflow.
How many people in the team?
Then look at a tool to help improve YOUR workflow.
I still look at unit tests with some detain, but when the that work helps show red days before release, it helps.
Simplest work flow: setup VSTS (azure devops) with Master as Pull Request only.
Make branch per feature.
Pull request viewer in devops, pull requests in general, consolidates multiple commits for easy pear review.
Mark delete branch on successful pull.
Issues with conflicts means in VS to sync YOUR master copy.
Merge master into the branch.
Review conflicts.
Commit, push.
The pull-request is updated and conflict removed, to allow for another review.
Im now in a team of 5 people, who have 20+ projects in Azure DevOps, some with multiple repos in them.
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I have a $5/m DO droplet that hosts my private Git AND SVN repos. It still has about 18GB free space on it.
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I use SVN with the repository hosted on a remote virtual server at GoDaddy.
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I have used Perforce and found it very reliable and easy to work with. Integrates into Visual Studio. I would still use Azure Dev Ops (VSTS) as a default as it does everything I need it to do. Just need to remember to set the project up in the browser and then add files to it from Visual Studio.
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I've been using social media for a long time now and lately, I've been feeling like social media is just adding to my anxiety and I tend to waste more time using social media than doing any productive work. 
In fact, I've thought of deactivating my social account and just go disappear for a while. Is it just me or do feel the same way? 
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I decided that before I started using it ... 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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does the Lounge qualify as social media?
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Maybe as antisocial media?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I walked away from Facebook years ago and I do not regret the decision.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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What about Instagram, Twitter etc? 
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I never used them to begin with. I follow and contribute to a few disqus enabled blogs though. That's about as close as I get to social media. Well that, and here.
Edit: My PS4 uses twitter and youtube, so I do use it to upload screen grabs and vid capture to my PC. it's more expedient than using sneakernet and a thumbdrive
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Good to stop with social media, if you don't want to deactivate your social account you can install an autoreply bot like AutoResponder. Of course CodeProject should be excluded 
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I've tried to stay off social media for a few days several time but ends up going back to it. Now I'm thinking I should permanently quit it and that's only possible with deactivation or may be deletion. 
Such a tough decision
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I have a FB account where I was pretty active during the first years in europe, while I was studying.
For the last 10 years (more or less) I only visit it once or twice a year, just to have a look to the settings to check that they are the strongest available.
The only exception for that was during the preparations of my wedding... because some friends were easier to contact through FB (I didn't have whatsapp on that time)
Nothing else but codeproject.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: I have a FB account where I was pretty active during the first years in europe, while I was studying.
I am still a student  but either I'm wasting too much time on social media and that's affecting my studies or I'm too affected by the studies that the only way out I find is social media. Can't say for sure
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