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I have a really large project whitch I had to dump after Mickeysoft decided to kill XNA when they were hyping their next great idea (Windows 8).
Well, at least there will be some hope, even if it means rebuilding the 3D engine and the UI. Both were quite a bit of work and I have lost my trust in Mickeysoft to provide an environment that exists long enough to go through all this again.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
A joke without a punch line?
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And also punchline when it wasn't needed.
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How about, what do you get when you cross LSD with the birth control pill? A trip without the kids.
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I just rebooted for updates on my new(er) win 8.1 laptop and a generic popup appeared that displayed an light blue Acorn icon and said, "updating: this won't take long".
I had no idea what it was so I googled and found out it was Pokki whatever that is.
A Bit Confusing
Next I went to uninstall it and it warned me: removing this will also uninstall "PC App Store".
Anyways, this type of stuff is confusing since you can't tell who (is this MS certified) has installed stuff on your computer.
Microsoft's Part
Seems like Microsoft could do a better job of communicating which items are theirs.
I'm still not 100% sure what I lose if I uninstall it, but from looking at http://pokki.com[^] it looks like you lose the Win 8 look and feel. I don't know. It's odd and confusing.
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As far as I know, Pokki is a Chinese (I think) company that created a pseudo start menu for windows 8 that came preinstalled in some lenovo computer.
You should be able to uninstall it without issues.
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Thanks for the help. I have a toshiba and it seems it was pre-installed on my computer.
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I thought it was chocolate-covered sticks.
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Anyone has experience with that?
As some will have read I'm trying to make a GPU to work with my brother in law computer, searching the internet and reading your comments I've reached the point of:
1. install a new PSU.
2. Upgrade BIOS.
3. Follow some terrible steps (waiting for more than one minute to start the computer while pressing keys is terrible).
But as far as I've been able to see this looks a problem in the BIOS software which has not been updated from 2012 in the HP support and drivers web site.
I've seen a web page in which somebody said that installing the FOXCONN BIOS software and not the HP one would brick the Motherboard.
Any hint here? could I find a better BIOS update than the one HP is offering? can I somehow be sure that the downloaded BIOS will work with that motherboard without issues? any way to backup the BIOS and go back if something goes wrong?
As always thank you all in advance! 
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I had experience with updating BIOS on different boards, but always from manufacturer (Intel, HP, ASUS)...and never had problem...
The first boot after BIOS update mostly take more than the usual (2-5 minutes), so it shouldn't be a problem...
However - it is always a bit of risk (not big in my experience) to update a BIOS, and we can't get that decision for you...
[EDIT]
But please see on the previous thread, my last post: First check the PSU...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
modified 18-Jan-15 12:01pm.
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Yes, of course I will not update the BIOS if it is not needed... let's see what happens this weekend...
Thank you!
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In my experience, BIOS updates are the last thing I'd try: I've only had to do it once in all the years I've been playing with PCS (and that was to use a large HDD that the previous BIOS didn't support)
And when I did it, it was from the manufacturers site and plastered with warnings to make sure it was the absolutely right model and revision of motherboard, and not to interrupt the power while the flash was applied, and that it was entirely my fault if the PC never worked again...
It did work again, and it accepted the bigger HDD.
Would I install a BIOS from a different manufacturer? Myself, no. Not unless I was absolutely sure that the new manufacturer "badged" it's product for HP. The BIOS is the software that talks directly to the hardware, and if it doesn't work exactly right...nor does anything else.
From a quick read of your other post, I'd go with the PSU first (or try the card in a "better" PC first to make sure it works) - but you almost certainly need to boot in safe mode or remove the "old" drivers before you upgrade to the new card.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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100% agree.
Let's see what will happen this weekend.
1. change the PSU.
2. try the steps depicted in a youtube video that shows how to make it work in a quite similar computer.
3. try to extend those steps and make it easier for my inlaw to get it working.
4. just in case it is not working then I'll update the BIOS. And in any case I'll do it using the patch in the HP site.
Thank you OG!
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Joan Murt wrote: 1. change the PSU.
I know this is "teaching your grandmother to suck eggs", but don't forget that you don't need a 400W PSU: if your previous one was 300W and the card is 400W, you're going to need a 600W~700W PSU to replace it!
But you knew that, I know.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Seriously?
My grandmother seems not to know how to suck eggs 
OK, 600W here we go!
Thank you OG!
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If the computer previously used up to 300W, then it's going to want at least 200W to run the processor, ram, HDD's etc. So if you add a card wanting 400W then 600W is the minimum PSU you can get away with - do you know how much power the old card used? If not, then 700W is safer, or the computer may become unreliable when the card is running to it's full potential.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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My last experience with a FOXCONN motherboard, was not a good one.
(side note: I will never buy one again)
When I did go to update my FOXCONN MB that I bought in 2012, I could not find anything useful from FOXCONN's site. As it turns out, the manufacture does not write the BIOS, they will use one of two, maybe three that exist.
I determined that I had an AMIBIOS installed on my MB. Then proceeded to get the latest AMIBIOS release for the chipset that I had.
[IMPORTANT]
Just so its clear, I downloaded the latest BIOS for my chipset from the company that wrote the BIOS.
I updated my BIOS to fix a sound issue that appeared after a graphics card update, go figure.
All answers pointed to a BIOS fix, which was not provided by FOXCONN. However, the manufacturer of the sound card, which was embedded on the FOXCONN MB, said a certain version of the AMIBIOS would resolve the issue.
I used that to update my PC, and all went well.
Again, it's the last thing that I resort to, because I have created more than a few bricks in my life (engineering samples from device manufacturers, not my own PC).
modified 18-Jan-15 13:51pm.
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I've been using HP and IBM computers for a long time in our office, but as I do not need powerful GPUs, I've never faced this kind of thing (only upgraded memory...).
This situation is quite different and it has suprised me a lot, I double checked all the requirements with one exception which was the PSU power (I missed that one), but it looks like the GPU is not working as expected with my inlaw's computer.
Someone has posted a youtube link to a video of a freak-kind guy who has got it working by updating the BIOS (from hp) and making it to try to boot using PXE and network. After all that Windows 7 loads automatically without issues... 
I'll try to follow those steps and hope everything will work well.
And of course, I'll forget about updating the BIOS using the patches in the Foxconn page...
Thank you Paul!
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Hello all,
My brother in law asked me about a recommendation for a graphics card that would work with his computer.
After searching for the computer tech specs and knowing the amount of money available I recommended him the GTX750OC card.
After removing his old card and inserting the new one, when powering the computer I saw all the fans rotating and in the display the blue splash screen that comes with the HP computers appeared (a hand and a small text down on the screen asking to press ESC key to go into the boot menu).
That is the last thing the computer is doing. you can press ESC or whatever but nothing happens.
After looking deeper in computer tech specs I saw the power supply was giving only 300W and that the graphics card needed 400W to work.
Do you think changing the power supply will do it?
After replacing the new card for the original one again everything worked again.
Any recommendation? (apart of course to stay away of relatives who ask for help in IT related issues).
As a recommendation of @Kornfeld_Eliyahu_Peter, I'm posting the motherboard kind here: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02978278&cc=us&destPage=document&lc=en&tmp_docname=c04169254[^]
Thank you all!
modified 18-Jan-15 8:18am.
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Your card does not get power directly from the power supply but via the board, so the question: Will the board survive a new power supply unit?
You may post the board id here, someone may have an experience with it...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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High end GPUs have cables directly to the PSU.
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I checked some models with this GPU from ASUS and MSI and didn't see such external power connection...Maybe the exact model would help...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Ok maybe it doesn't, but then it's not really high end anyway..
But 400W without cables? Madness
edit: ok I've found two of them, one says "no cables", the other says "additional 6 pin PCIe power required"
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In their specs (at the card box) it says no extra cables needed, I asked that in the shop too and before buying I saw it in their web site... so they are asking for 400W without cables... Why should it be madness?
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