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You underestimate the licensing authority officers... They now go for a couple of these.
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I was in Egypt some years ago, and the guide told me how they (supposedly) manage driving tests in Egypt:
You go out into the desert and find an open, plain space of sufficient size. The instructor puts out 10 cones with sufficient space between. You then have to zig-zag the car between the cones, and if you don't hit more than half, you get the license.
I doubt it's really true, but given the way some people drive, I can believe that the majority of people in the western world have taken their driving test in Egypt... 
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... I go the whole nine yards
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Is that nine imperial yards to the metric mile or nine metric yards to the imperial mile?
I can never remember which way the conversion goes...
I, for one, like Roman Numerals.
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Currently there is a running challenge here on CP about Cloud based AI...
It has 10 days left and totally will be on for two months - which is a long time...
What I've noticed that almost there is no interest beyond the tutorial (which maybe because it gives you a $50 prize for almost nothing)...
Why is that so?
Do we don't like the 'cloud' idea?
Do we prefer other services than AWS used in the tutorial?
Or we just simply to bricked an old to (re)learn new/old tricks?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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AI AI AI Caramba!
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Personally, I'm just not convinced the cloud idea is a good one (handing your data over to total strangers in a different country and expecting it to be both safe and secure seems like going back to a centralised computer department to me, only worse) so I'm not that interested in learning how to do it ...
I think we need to fix some of the more evident problems with the web first, then consider data centralisation (security, identity, replacing HTML/Javascript with something real, that kind of thing).
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I was thinking along the same line - all the cloud idea reminds me the worst part of the mainframe experience... However, it seems, a lot do not even know what I'm talking about and far to lazy to learn history...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Yeah - but with the added fun and games of handing your data to a company that probably employs at minimum wage, and the employee security checking consists of "can you start Monday?".
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: and far to lazy to learn history...
They are probably doomed to repeat it then.
I, for one, like Roman Numerals.
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OriginalGriff wrote: handing your data over to total strangers in a different country and expecting it to be both safe and secure seems
First of all, you can get a local cloud. But the idea is that they are experts in security and hosting since it is all they do. It allows you to not have to spend time focusing on that aspect of business. If you think you know security just as well as cloud providers and you have the time to keep patching your firewalls and servers and such then the cloud may not be for you. But most people are not experts in everything.
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Good point. One misstep nullifies everything. 
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
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Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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All it takes is one fact to scupper a whole theory! 
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OriginalGriff wrote: All it takes is one fact to scupper a whole theory
In that case, there is no model of security anywhere. So, who cares? 
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Not really, but the internet generally is about as secure as a chocolate teapot, and expecting that to change when companies more interested in money that your data are intimately involved is a long reach!
I hate to say it, but most of the "security aware" developers out there couldn't secure an elastic band without grabbing random code from SO.
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OriginalGriff wrote: but most of the "security aware" developers
Now you're making my point for me. Don't leave security to just your developers. Hope that your cloud provider is an expert on security.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: Hope
Sure, but I'd rather hope that a person who's only job is to provide secure data access knows what they are doing over hoping an in-house IT guy who is responsible for everything or a developer knows and keeps up with all the changes.
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Well, in my limited experience you'll have to hope about equally much in both cases.
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OriginalGriff wrote: All it takes is one fact to scupper a whole theory!
Oh - if only that were true...
I, for one, like Roman Numerals.
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It is true, for real scientific theories. It isn't for "belief systems" dressed up as theories.
For theories like Evolution, General Relativity: they make predictions which can be tested. Events happen, which can be checked against the theory and either confirm it, or disprove it. Quantum mechanics will probably disprove some of GR, when we learn how to do proper tests - but it works for the moment on a large scale.
For a belief system, anything which contradicts is shouted down, or ignored: Intelligent Design, anybody?
Regrettably, as the mind becomes older and more rigid, a Theory tends to slide into a Belief.
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AI is such a bloated topic. A few years ago, IoT and cloud and "connected" objects were the new black, now it is AI - and frankly, 99,99% of things that are called "AI" are not even close to anything about artificial intelligence at all... Even a PID controller is artificial intelligence by today's standards. It is crazy how this damn freaking "ultraconnected" "social media" "buzz-addicted" society is going to ruin everything...
So honestly, no wonder Cloud in AI has no success.
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Me was wondering always how the 'I' part is actually got it's name... We not even know how Human Intelligence works (not even agreed on what it is), but already building the Artificial version?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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