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Yes there are potentially lots of toolbars, but you only show the ones you need, and it was quick and easy to drag buttons between them for that odd thing you only used occasionally.
And I dispute the fact that being only one level helps - it only helps if what you want it immediately visible and you can visually parse the ribbon to find it (which I contend is much harder than reading a menu), otherwise there is no logical, systematic way of finding it, other than perhaps searching 'All commands' on the customise menu.
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Look might matter more than you think!
For instance, though I did use and implement the ribbon since 2005 it left me somehow unsatisfied... 
(though it did help reduce the clutter of tool windows, toolbars and menus in our app)
But using Office 2013 at home (Word, Excel, OneNote) and the new metro-ish ribbon didn't even register in my awareness on any level, I just used it... until one day, recently, I thought to myself hey, this new Office2013 Ribbon is good! 
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Super Lloyd wrote: you can cram yam
in a can of spam?
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oops, little typo! 
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And it consumes so much screen real estate. (Yes, I know you can shrink it, but it's not obvious)
I find it harder to use, slower to locate infrequently used commands, and less intuitive.
I suspect it was designed for morons: by morons marketing executives.
It is a coincidence that VS still doesn't have a ribbon? I don't think so...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Andre Zimmern, bizarre foods fatso and official small animal sadist. Just watch the glee in his eyes when he guts that frog, alive, on one of his shows.
So who is your hated TV personality and why?
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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Those two on "Love it or list it" - Somebody make them stop
The MC on "Say yes to the dress" - My wife watches this POS
Jim Nance - He's a poser and Phil Simms in gonna kill him some say I swear.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: TV personality
Define personality, anyone participating in a reality show or a cooking show is automatically excluded from the human race so they cannot qualify as personality.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I don't. Mostly because I hardly watch TV at all, but also because I avoid those programs with people I don't like.
Now, do you think there's a correlation between those two statements?
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I have no TV. Not connected to any on the internet. No hatred!
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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All of them.
That way, they have to become liked. Which means there aren't that many that make it...
So the "like" list is a lot shorter.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Wow, where do you want me to start.....
a) Any w....../d.../f...wit on those reality shows. e.g. Big Brother, Towie, Made in Chelsea, Keeping up with the K's etc. etc.
b) Those smarmy hosts/chefs on Master Chef and other cooking programs.
c) Sandy Toxic Toksvig.....she bugs me senseless
d) The Eggsheads......especially CJ and Daphne, wouldn't get tired hitting them around the head all day with a 4x2.
that will do as a starter.
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Sandy Toksvig - met her recently when I appeared on 15-to-1 - OK, but lacking in charisma
The Eggheads - I'm friends with several of them - Pat, Kevin, Barry, Dave, and have met all of the others. Daphne is a sweetie, but tomorrow's show is the last before her retirement - CJ returns, along with another woman called Lisa.
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I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka.
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Chris Quinn wrote: Daphne is a sweetie
She maybe is fine in real life, but on the telly she comes across as such a big headed know it all smarmy old dear...So does CJ, but he also has a 'look' about him that invites a skelp.
The others comes across a lot better and they don't really grate on me.
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Skelp! Not heard that word in forty years - my mad Irish maths teacher Paddy Butler used to administer them on a regular basis!
If you really want to know what CJ's like, read his Twitter feed[^]!
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Skelp!
My mother used to threaten me with one of those!
All the Eggheads strike me as a bunch of tossers.
The person I reserve my deepest loathing for though is Ross Noble.
I cannot abide that complete sunshine.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Ricky Gervais
Jimmy Carr
Russell Brand
Michael McIntyre
Miranda Hart
All as funny as a case of genital warts (on your own genitals, not somebody else's)
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They are more annoying though, aren't they? I actually Hate Zimmern, he has a nasty glee in his eyes when small animals are killed, really, I think he is a psycho.
"The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s." climate-models-go-cold
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Great video.
Jeremy Falcon
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I dunno if it's old age or doing Web development only for the last 12 months...
But my home work on a (kind of original) WPF control is... so slow...
Worse than that, I got stuck somewhere and I had to save my self by digging some control I wrote (which I found painful to write from scratch now!  )
Anyhow, this is a new concept, I call it: The MenuTabItem
It's like the Office2013 ribbon: you don't know when it's closed, maybe it's a Ribbon, maybe it's a Menu?
Well in the case of the Ribbon it's a Ribbon.
With my control, the MenuTabItem, each tab could be different!  One tab can drop a Ribbon, while an other tab drop a Menu!
What da ya think?
Might end up on CodeProject too! ^^
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Time to click here: http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/Submit.aspx[^] 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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