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reflection ???!!!  
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Interesting that your signature is "You'll never get very far if all you do is follow the instructions" fitting for this tread isn't it
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Have you read the article?
Colborne_Greg wrote: It can utilize every C, C++, and C# library.
C can be plugged into any application in any language. The author is aware that C itself lacks libraries and he does mention it. So what was your point again?
Colborne_Greg wrote: Plus it looks pretty.
Ah that. 
Ok, seriously. If you meant it has a better readability, that was mentioned by the author, too. So, again the question, what was your point?
Colborne_Greg wrote: For example the "with" operator is in Visual basic but is not in C.
And it's in Pascal. So what? Again, the author made a point that other languages offer more (and often more complex) language elements - but that doesn't deterr him from listing a number of advantages of the language C that you failed to address entirely.
Disclaimer: I don't actually agree with the article. I just wanted to point out that the article already pointed out or implied everything you said, and you did nothing to argue against it. (if that was your purpose)
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Your signature has a line about GOTO
The goto fail example is a major fail in general for the C language.
The goto is the first thing every programmer should avoid, but in this example the GOTO's are used correctly, but its a limitation of the C language (one of the dumbest things in history I might add)
Visual basic .net is C with English words and no bracket issue, the GOTO fail would never had been an issue in VB.
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You've completely missed my point.
My sig should have made it obvious I abhor the use of goto. I merely pointed out a possible reason why case may have been specified the way it is. Not that I wouldn't like to ban goto from the language entirely. And not that I would miss the switch statement for that matter (not much anyway). It was just a statement about the consistency of the language as a whole.
As for your love of Basic - to each their own. It certainly has it's use for certain kind of applications. Me, I've been working on processing-intensive applications for decades, and no Basic dialect whatsoever, not even the compiled ones, would ever have served the purpose.
That said, I'll remove the link from my sig: as you've pointed out, the main reason for the problem isn't so much the use of goto - it is the fact that braces (or other block markers) are only optional after control statements, combined with an unlucky duplicate line of code - that this line contains a goto command is just happenstance, many other commands would have caused havoc as well.
On a sidenote:
Colborne_Greg wrote: Visual basic .net is C with English words and no bracket issue, the GOTO fail would never had been an issue in VB.
Which part of go to isn't english? Just wondering...
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I programmed Unidex in visual basic, there isn't a conditional statement involved in retrieving a value from a serialized file (no sql) it can handle creating 8 million records an hour, and can read 2.3 billion records an hour.
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You didn't get the point of anything I said. But nevermind. I've got it that you prefer VB from your first posting. That's fine. Have a nice day.
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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As already noted, one can write terribly in any language, programming or "natural".
If writing systems level code: C or C++
If writing business system code: Modern COBOL
If writing science/engineering code: Modern FORTRAN.
If a masochist (or given no choice): Assembler
If writing modeling system: (Probably still) SIMSCRIPT
If writing WEB pages: HTML/CSS, but many IDEs now available to make this easier.
50 years of programing using 30+ languages including BASIC, VB, JOVIAL, HAL, 15+ assemblers, PL/1, APL, ALGOL, C/C++, HTML, JAVA, PYTHON, PERL, etc.
Charles Wolfe
C. Wolfe Software Engineering
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Any time anyone thinks that one technology is "better" than another then first they need to define what "better" means.
And since the statement doesn't limit itself to which other language is compares itself to it is going to fail because for any measurable attribute there is going to be some language which is in fact better than C.
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Funny, I thought the language to-go was Fortran?[^]
Now I'm waiting on a corresponding article about COBOL 
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Oh, there are better languages. I just don't care to name them. 
I care about so few things.
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There is no disscuss!
C is not BETTER. It is just the ONE and the ONLY language for programming! rest languages are for job security.
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After programming for 20+ years (on and off) I have recently come to the disappointing conclusion that I don't have a favorite language. Starting on the C64 and BBC Micro, I liked the way everything was self-contained: it was easy to make sounds or move graphics without importing alien libraries, but it was awkward having to resort periodically to assembly or machine code! Moving on to a bit of C, then C++ and some JS I got to like C++, but all the memory leaks and lack of strict object-orientation led me to C# with all its shiny promises. Trouble is, ASP.NET has changed too fast for me to keep up (I don't have the time) and often it feels like using an intercontinental warhead to crack a nut. As for desktop apps written in C# - who wants to install .NET just to run one small app? By this point I was growing fond of Java - it smoothly implemented interfaces without abstract things like delegates - the syntax of which is so bad they have become increasingly abstract to compensate (i.e. anonymous methods). Java had none of these issues, but then came LINK which made these awkward constructs somehow vital. Anyway, Java isn't as easy to run online as it was originally intended to be (rather like C#) - all that OOP made it a bit clumsy for browsers, so I went back to JS when HTML 5 came along. I still haven't found a satisfactory way of generating simple sounds and playing them back smoothly (double-buffering in C# just didn't work on my machine for some reason) and now I find myself longing for my C64 again! I seem to be back where I started, only slightly disillusioned (and quite a bit older).
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I wonder on how many of those stars/planets there are people saying "Nah there's no life out there"?
Here today gone to Maui...
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Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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chriselst wrote: 7 42
FTFY
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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Exactly the answer is always 42, it's called a SWAG (Sorry Wild Ass Guess)
Here today gone to Maui...
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Your only half right you forgot the " x 6"
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My brain may well be turning to mush, but...doesn't that mean the stars are rather close together?
10E6 stars in a sphere 150LY diameter.
That's a volume of 1.77E6 cubic LY, (according to Google) which would make the average distance between stars around 1/5th LY, wouldn't it?
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Yes, would be quite toasty 
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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Not only that, but if life evolved there, you could build a slower-than-light probe that could reach other stars in your own lifetime...and have a huge number of potential life bearing targets to choose from. 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Correct, it's quite a dense cluster (NASA estimate about 1/3 of a light year).
One day I aspire to having a signature.
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Arrg, can't you post something useful for once, like what horse to bet on etc? 
Nice picture though 
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Kenneth Haugland wrote: like what horse to bet on
If I could do that...
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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