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glennPattonWork315-Jul-14 1:29

glennPattonWork3

15-Jul-14 1:29

Just thinking there are probably safer places to plant your flag, than that part o the planet Wink | ;)

Simon_Whale15-Jul-14 1:40

Simon_Whale

15-Jul-14 1:40

What Luton?

Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.

Help end the violence EAT BACON

glennPattonWork315-Jul-14 2:10

glennPattonWork3

15-Jul-14 2:10

Well maybe not...

They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

Shameel15-Jul-14 1:56

Shameel

15-Jul-14 1:56

Yes, but they all have governments and their own flags Smile | :)

Nagy Vilmos14-Jul-14 22:58

Nagy Vilmos

14-Jul-14 22:58

Our favourite education secretary[^] has been kicked aside.
Beer | [beer]

* for the welsh.

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

OriginalGriff14-Jul-14 23:08

OriginalGriff

14-Jul-14 23:08

It's only temporary - cram some ladies in there so it looks like they always had 'em, then dump 'em if they get re-elected.
Cynical load of old b*ll*cks if you ask me.

Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

chriselst14-Jul-14 23:29

chriselst

14-Jul-14 23:29

It is, and education has been mismanaged at least since I was at school by ministers of various political persuasions.

But Gove was a particularly 'orrible incumbent and his removal cause for celebration.

There is an excellent letter from a primary school to its pupils that has gone viral today which sums up exactly what those in charge of education do not understand about it.

Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

Dalek Dave14-Jul-14 23:42

Dalek Dave

14-Jul-14 23:42

This is a retrograde step.

The perception will be that these chicks only got the job because they own a vagina, not because they are experienced or qualified.

Positive discrimination is part of the political correctness cancer that is destroying our society.

Never mind that the guy cannot do the job, he ticks the right boxes.

Madness.

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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

Keith Barrow14-Jul-14 23:59

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

14-Jul-14 23:59

Esther McVey is the stand-out one for me. Her only discernible attribute AFAICT was that she was mildly-photogenic enough to have had a TV career. About 20 years ago. I've yet to hear her speak as a politician and spout anything other than unthinking rhetoric. Plus a Scouse Tory sticks in my craw more than I care to admit.

Sorry to see Ken Clarke go - one of the few I actually liked.

They're losing some big-hitters with seemingly no-one to replace them, at least we can take heart that the left-overs & newbies are now no longer interested in running the country, but in the business of getting re-elected.

Alberto Brandolini:
The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

Dalek Dave15-Jul-14 0:10

Dalek Dave

15-Jul-14 0:10

Glad to see Ken Clark go.

Soft, Wet, Leftist, Pro EU.

He should have joined the Labour Party and been done with it.

We need more from the right, like May and Hammond, Gove and Michael Fallon.
These are the one's needed to protect us from the Commies in the LimpDumbs.

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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

Keith Barrow15-Jul-14 0:15

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

15-Jul-14 0:15

Dalek Dave wrote:
We need more from the right, like May and Hammond, Gove and Michael Fallon.

I agree - the more toxic the party becomes, the less likely it is to be elected.

Alberto Brandolini:
The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

Bergholt Stuttley Johnson15-Jul-14 0:36

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

15-Jul-14 0:36

repeating the same mistake and expecting a different result is often referred to as a sign of madness, yet labour still gets votes? does not bode well for the mental health of the country

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

Keith Barrow15-Jul-14 0:56

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

15-Jul-14 0:56

Following that logic, the sane thing to do is to ask the Germans over to run our country. The UK hasn't been properly governed since the 60s AFAICT, whereas Germany just goes from strength to strength.

Alberto Brandolini:
The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

JMK-NI15-Jul-14 0:57

JMK-NI

15-Jul-14 0:57

They probably wouldn't go for it

They offered to do that in the 1940's and we were pretty rude to them

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

Bergholt Stuttley Johnson15-Jul-14 1:20

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

15-Jul-14 1:20

HomerTheGreat wrote:
They offered to do that in the 1910's and again in the 1940's and we were pretty rude to them

FIFY

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

Keith Barrow15-Jul-14 1:39

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

15-Jul-14 1:39

HomerTheGreat wrote:
and we were pretty rude to them

sorry, but that just elevates your post to this[^]

Alberto Brandolini:
The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

Bergholt Stuttley Johnson15-Jul-14 1:47

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

15-Jul-14 1:47

if you look at history you will find that a lot of Germany's resurgence is down to they way they spent the Marshall plan money, investing in infrastructure and its manufacturing base whilst the UK spent its money on the NHS and social reform

are you proposing that we close the NHS and drastically cut our social care to pump money into industry?

you may also need to have a word with the unions about their attitude to working

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

Keith Barrow15-Jul-14 2:00

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

15-Jul-14 2:00

I'm proposing a more centrist government rather than the aping of US (increasingly right-wing) American Republican politics and it's dogmatic adherence to the idea that a totally free market will not lead to the sort of corporate greed and corruption that lead to the crash we saw in 2008.

Alberto Brandolini:
The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

Bergholt Stuttley Johnson15-Jul-14 2:41

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

15-Jul-14 2:41

the problem is that we don't have a government at present what we have is a party that is having to submit to black mail of a minority to be able to govern,

the problem is that the choice is not what we currently have and a centralist government but is between what we have and a union driven government and that will destroy our recovery far quicker and effectively than any corporate greed

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

P0mpeyBoy15-Jul-14 1:07

P0mpeyBoy

15-Jul-14 1:07

With the amount of Women getting promoted anyone would think there was going to be an Election soon.

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Duncan Edwards Jones15-Jul-14 0:58

Duncan Edwards Jones

15-Jul-14 0:58

Those who do not learn from attempting to rewrite the curriculum for history are destined to become history.

Re: They'll be drinking in the Staff Rooms of the Land tonight!

Keith Barrow15-Jul-14 3:29