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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: I absolutely HATE tables that span 200 to 300 columns!
 I'm glad I haven't eaten my dinner yet. 
Marc
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I saw one database with 1 table that had over 5000(!) columns. There were two other tables, both with about 2000 columns.
The database file (it was homebrewed) was over 4 GB in size.
I am very glad that I don't have to work with that!
The database was used in a VB.NET 2002 application, and that code.... well... (This application was being written in 2013(!!!))
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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Wow! and I thought we had it bad!
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The application never was released.
The company that was working on this was owned by a friend of mine, and the customer saw how this was going and canceled the contract. The company went bankrupt the next month. They were in existence for only two years.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: The company went bankrupt the next month. They were in existence for only two years
Your friend or the customer?
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My friend. The customer is still going strong (AFAIK)
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: My friend
Yikes. That had to put you in a weird spot when you heard the news and knew why it folded.
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: The company that was working on this was owned by a friend of mine, and the customer saw how this was going and canceled the contract. The company went bankrupt the next month. They were in existence for only two years.
Two years too long by the way it sounds. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Can anyone explain to me a good reason why anyone would use CF outside of "it's just what we know"?
You explained it perfectly. The only people who use CF is because it is just what they know.
Unfortunately, I was on a government contract where the project lead didn't know anything about programming. She trusted this bozo who pushed for CF over strenuious objections from me and most everybody else.
He claimed he could implement a dashboard in 3 days. After 3 months we got the POS up but it was plagued with problems.
Eventually, he had a nervous breakdown and disappeared from the contract for 5 weeks. By the time he returned someone else had taken over as lead developer and talked Angry Bird (our nickname for the clueless lead - she also would throw temper tantrums) into changing the architecture from CF to C# (it was a SharePoint site).
Wacko returned and was eventually dismissed because he couldn't work with other people being in charge of the direction the project was going. He was a megalomaniac who thought his idea was the only way to go.
We implemented the project and it started working without those pesky problems the CF version had.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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JimmyRopes wrote: He claimed he could implement a dashboard in 3 days. After 3 months we got the POS up but it was plagued with problems.
Ha. Totally sounds like an environment I just came out of where the original devs used a lot of FoxPro. A lot of times it's just charisma that sells this stuff to management since they really don't know any better about the tech side of things.
JimmyRopes wrote: We implemented the project and it started working without those pesky problems the CF version had.
I never bought into it. I'm just surprised to still see ads for it on CP, it's up to version 11. I suppose if Crystal Reports can last that long, anything can.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Totally sounds like an environment I just came out of where the original devs used a lot of FoxPro.
There are a lot of products developed so non-programmers can say they program.
The problem is that they don't have a clue about good coding practices and their results are usually plagued with easily avoidable problems. 
Jeremy Falcon wrote: I'm just surprised to still see ads for it on CP, it's up to version 11. I suppose if Crystal Reports can last that long, anything can.
I have never used Crystal Reports. Never saw the need when there were reporting facilities available in Office Interop.
We already had a license for Office so why but another licensed product to do what you already can do.
I could be mistaken but by the testimony of the CR evangelists it sounds like one of those so simple anyone can use it products. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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JimmyRopes wrote: The problem is that they don't have a clue about good coding practices and their results are usually plagued with easily avoidable problems.
This is how I feel about MS Access, no doubt.
JimmyRopes wrote: I could be mistaken but by the testimony of the CR evangelists it sounds like one of those so simple anyone can use it products.
Keep in mind I stopped using CR around version 8, but it never was the product in itself that gave it such a bad rep. It was the endless amount of bugs in it. So many times the designer would just crash or corrupt its own files, it's just ridiculous.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: JimmyRopes wrote: The problem is that they don't have a clue about good coding practices and their results are usually plagued with easily avoidable problems.
This is how I feel about MS Access
I agree.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Because it seemed like a good idea 15 years ago and the bean counters won't pay to rewrite it in something sane today?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: Because it seemed like a good idea 15 years ago and the bean counters won't pay to rewrite it in something sane today?
So then it would be VB for the web. Woo hoo!
Jeremy Falcon
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I'd never heard of ColdFusion until now. Looked it up. Ugh; another Adobe technology. (The company that truly keeps throwing sh*t against the wall, hoping one will stick.)
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Joe Woodbury wrote: The company that truly keeps throwing sh*t against the wall, hoping one will stick
Exactly. I still think Photoshop is one of the best apps ever, but they're becoming way too diluted now with their products.
Jeremy Falcon
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Family was swimming at the public pool the other day.
All of a sudden the Lifeguard starts blowing his whistle and pointing at this kid.
He yells at the kid, "Hey, stop pee-ing in the pool."
"Everyone does it," the kid replied.
"Not from the diving board," the lifeguard said.
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Mladen Janković wrote: The same joke
+5 for relevant!
You should be ruler of the board now. At the very least, Ruler of The Lounge.
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That's one of the reasons I don't go to public pools.
The other is that I just really don't like swimming
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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I wouldn't got to a public pool for the swimming.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Is your toilet out of order then? 
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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So I'm something like a youtube addict. First thing I do when I open my browser is open youtube and play some funky music! Or heavy metal, or dance, or what have you...
I'm subscribed to about 50 channels each representing a part of my music taste (with quite some overlap).
So I open youtube and I get something like:
Channel X:
[vid 1] [Vid 2] [Vid 3]
Recommendations: (I don't know why this isn't on top by default, it's usually second or third)
[Vid 1]...[Vid 12]
[Show More] (will show an additional 12 vids!)
Channel Y:
[Vids...]
Channel Z:
{Vids...]
Etc.
So as of today my recommendations disappeared! I loved recommendations! Great way to get to know new music, new channels, find funny vids etc.
Of course I Googled a bit and it seems clearing your browser history will get it back. Don't friggin believe it!
Where did my recommendations go? 
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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You have presumably developed to much good taste for YouTube, and as a result it can't recommend anything.
Try cultivating an interest in Simon Cowell bands, and fat kids dancing and I'm sure it will come back... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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