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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Can anyone explain to me a good reason why anyone would use CF outside of "it's just what we know"?
You explained it perfectly. The only people who use CF is because it is just what they know.
Unfortunately, I was on a government contract where the project lead didn't know anything about programming. She trusted this bozo who pushed for CF over strenuious objections from me and most everybody else.
He claimed he could implement a dashboard in 3 days. After 3 months we got the POS up but it was plagued with problems.
Eventually, he had a nervous breakdown and disappeared from the contract for 5 weeks. By the time he returned someone else had taken over as lead developer and talked Angry Bird (our nickname for the clueless lead - she also would throw temper tantrums) into changing the architecture from CF to C# (it was a SharePoint site).
Wacko returned and was eventually dismissed because he couldn't work with other people being in charge of the direction the project was going. He was a megalomaniac who thought his idea was the only way to go.
We implemented the project and it started working without those pesky problems the CF version had.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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JimmyRopes wrote: He claimed he could implement a dashboard in 3 days. After 3 months we got the POS up but it was plagued with problems.
Ha. Totally sounds like an environment I just came out of where the original devs used a lot of FoxPro. A lot of times it's just charisma that sells this stuff to management since they really don't know any better about the tech side of things.
JimmyRopes wrote: We implemented the project and it started working without those pesky problems the CF version had.
I never bought into it. I'm just surprised to still see ads for it on CP, it's up to version 11. I suppose if Crystal Reports can last that long, anything can.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Totally sounds like an environment I just came out of where the original devs used a lot of FoxPro.
There are a lot of products developed so non-programmers can say they program.
The problem is that they don't have a clue about good coding practices and their results are usually plagued with easily avoidable problems. 
Jeremy Falcon wrote: I'm just surprised to still see ads for it on CP, it's up to version 11. I suppose if Crystal Reports can last that long, anything can.
I have never used Crystal Reports. Never saw the need when there were reporting facilities available in Office Interop.
We already had a license for Office so why but another licensed product to do what you already can do.
I could be mistaken but by the testimony of the CR evangelists it sounds like one of those so simple anyone can use it products. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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JimmyRopes wrote: The problem is that they don't have a clue about good coding practices and their results are usually plagued with easily avoidable problems.
This is how I feel about MS Access, no doubt.
JimmyRopes wrote: I could be mistaken but by the testimony of the CR evangelists it sounds like one of those so simple anyone can use it products.
Keep in mind I stopped using CR around version 8, but it never was the product in itself that gave it such a bad rep. It was the endless amount of bugs in it. So many times the designer would just crash or corrupt its own files, it's just ridiculous.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: JimmyRopes wrote: The problem is that they don't have a clue about good coding practices and their results are usually plagued with easily avoidable problems.
This is how I feel about MS Access
I agree. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
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Because it seemed like a good idea 15 years ago and the bean counters won't pay to rewrite it in something sane today?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: Because it seemed like a good idea 15 years ago and the bean counters won't pay to rewrite it in something sane today?
So then it would be VB for the web. Woo hoo!
Jeremy Falcon
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I'd never heard of ColdFusion until now. Looked it up. Ugh; another Adobe technology. (The company that truly keeps throwing sh*t against the wall, hoping one will stick.)
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Joe Woodbury wrote: The company that truly keeps throwing sh*t against the wall, hoping one will stick
Exactly. I still think Photoshop is one of the best apps ever, but they're becoming way too diluted now with their products.
Jeremy Falcon
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Family was swimming at the public pool the other day.
All of a sudden the Lifeguard starts blowing his whistle and pointing at this kid.
He yells at the kid, "Hey, stop pee-ing in the pool."
"Everyone does it," the kid replied.
"Not from the diving board," the lifeguard said.
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Mladen Janković wrote: The same joke
+5 for relevant!
You should be ruler of the board now. At the very least, Ruler of The Lounge.
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That's one of the reasons I don't go to public pools.
The other is that I just really don't like swimming
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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I wouldn't got to a public pool for the swimming.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Is your toilet out of order then? 
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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So I'm something like a youtube addict. First thing I do when I open my browser is open youtube and play some funky music! Or heavy metal, or dance, or what have you...
I'm subscribed to about 50 channels each representing a part of my music taste (with quite some overlap).
So I open youtube and I get something like:
Channel X:
[vid 1] [Vid 2] [Vid 3]
Recommendations: (I don't know why this isn't on top by default, it's usually second or third)
[Vid 1]...[Vid 12]
[Show More] (will show an additional 12 vids!)
Channel Y:
[Vids...]
Channel Z:
{Vids...]
Etc.
So as of today my recommendations disappeared! I loved recommendations! Great way to get to know new music, new channels, find funny vids etc.
Of course I Googled a bit and it seems clearing your browser history will get it back. Don't friggin believe it!
Where did my recommendations go? 
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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You have presumably developed to much good taste for YouTube, and as a result it can't recommend anything.
Try cultivating an interest in Simon Cowell bands, and fat kids dancing and I'm sure it will come back... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Why don't you try grooveshark?
It's some kind of 100% free spotify with recommendations. ..
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I have a Last.fm account, it also gives recommendations, but YouTube is the all-in-one solution.
I'm pretty sure it has everything GrooveShark has, but grouped together in channels.
Additionally it has cats. GrooveShark just can't compete with that!
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Sander Rossel wrote: Additionally it has cats
I'm just leaving this discussion...
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Sander Rossel wrote: it seems clearing your browser history will get it back.
Actually, you need to
1. turn off computer
2. turn back on
3. reformat your hard drive
4. install AbbadabbaLinux
4. install IronFacade web browser
5. go to youtube.com (no, not with a browser, with your car. Drive to youtube.com, get out and punch the developer in the nose). 
It'll all be fixed. It's really that easy.
I hope to hear back about how this has fixed your youtube problem.
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You seem to be new at this...[^]
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Oh,no, actually, I'm very old at that.
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Tell the truth people...
How many of you went and did a google to find AbbadabbaLinux and IronFacade browser?
Come on. Tell the truth. Probably millions of you, right?
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I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really FRIGGIN HATE those "please accept we use cookies" messages...
It's a Dutch law that any Dutch website that uses cookies must give the user a super annoying pop-up (in any form) informing them that the website uses cookies and that you have to be okay with that. It's a privacy thing I guess.
First of all I think most of the Dutch population doesn't know what cookies are other than the ones you can eat.
Secondly, I doubt if many people actually disagree to cookies. It's like the LUA, no one reads them and accepts them anyway.
Who the hell profits from this law? 
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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