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I have to ask, what do you care what the salaried employees do? It's their time not yours.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
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Because overworked employees are not productive. Nor happy. No matter how much they fake it. Productive and happy people think better and produce better code.
Jeremy Falcon
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I agree, the OP looks like he's billing for each hour worked, and getting paid for it, unlike the salaried people, they should be griping, not him IMO.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
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But salaried employees get bonuses, contract ones don't. The perceived effort/input/success of an individual employee can reward with significantly higher bonus than one who does the bare minimum.
Contractors then moan that they don't get a bonus, well of course not, you are paid for what you do - your terms! 
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I'm not dissing the salary concept, I'm simply stating that anyone that's overworked cannot be happy. Money is not worth trading your entire life for.
Jeremy Falcon
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In my 30+ years of professional experience, there has been an inverse correlation between the number of overtime hours worked and the amount of my bonuses.
In other words, the smarter I worked, the less overtime I worked, and my bonuses were larger.
Software Zen: delete this;
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What's a bonus? - Oh sorry just remembered, I work in the UK...
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Bonuses? You mean the $50 gift card to a restaurant I got after working 12+ hours a day, 7 days a week for 2 months straight? On my subsequent annual review, I was told I was the best developer they had and because of that, I was getting a raise .5% higher than average. I left not long after that.
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I was working for an outfit that demanded 45+ hours/week. After two months of that I took 4 hours off on a Friday and had to deduct that from accrued vacation time. When I refused to work another 12 hour day I got fired, which turned out to be one of the best bonuses I ever got!
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Additionally, it sets expectations that the OP and others that may not be inclined to sell their soul have to suffer with.
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I'd have to agree.
It really surprised me: I had always been in an environment where you ate at your desk, worked long hours, some weekends - mostly unpaid, but for the occasional "thank you" - then I started a new job with a different company and on the first day I was told (with some impatience) that they were waiting to lock up the building at 17:02.
On the second day, one of the order processing ladies "had a quiet word" and told me to stop working my lunch hour. They suspected that if I didn't they would have to start... 
So I found myself working 09:00 to 17:00 (13:00 on Fridays) even after I was given the key to the building with a full hour off for lunch. And b*gg*r me! I was getting more done... 
I think it has two effects: you focus better while you are working, and the breaks let you relax and become more creative at the same time. So much so that I don't work a full hour any more: I take regular breaks and do something different - come here for example - and it works.
Counter-intuitive, I know.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: Counter-intuitive, I know.
It's true though. The brain is a muscle. And like any other muscle, it can be overworked and destroyed. We need to give our "thinking" brains some to rest and recoup to always be on our A game. The folks that rot in front of their computer and drug themselves up on coffee tend to act more like zombies than anything else. You just can't beat rest to keep the brain sharp.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: The brain is a muscle. And like any other muscle...
I agree that the brain needs rest and all that but let's not be silly... it ain't a muscle. 
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: it ain't a muscle.
Wrong. You're just arguing semantics, but it functions just like a muscle. When you work a muscle it becomes stronger. When you work your brain it becomes quicker and clearer. When you overwork either, they both break down and become damaged.
Do some research before dismissing it, or else you'll get stuck in old ways of thinking. Here's a quick Google to even get you started...
http://kids.frontiersin.org/articles/20/your_brain_is_like_a_muscle/[^]
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: You're just arguing semantics
I'm not arguing anything... You made a statement that is totally false. The brain is an organ not a muscle. PERIOD. I agree that the brain (like muscles) needs to be "exercised" to become / stay strong but physiologically the brain is totally different than a muscle.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Yup, you're arguing semantics. I know they technically work different, that's common sense. Seriously Mike, no duh. Any fool knows that. Guess what, circles and squares are different too. Are you trying to sound smart by finding something that silly to argue about? Everyone knows they're different. But they are both shapes they both work like shapes. Like I said, you're arguing semantics simply because I didn't use a word such as "like" in my original post when comparing the two.
Do me a favor, argue about not arguing some more. That would be swell.
And speaking of semantics, muscles are organs too.
Jeremy Falcon
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Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Pot, meet kettle.[^]
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Cute Mike. Enjoy being you, I'm sure you have tons of friends offline.
Jeremy Falcon
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You're welcome.
Jeremy Falcon
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you said it's a muscle. very clearly. and it is not. get over it.
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Very clearly you do not talk to people that aren't programmers.
Jeremy Falcon
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it's weird (and this is just a pretest not a contestation) how many time is wasted on trying to state something that is simply wrong, and being wrong do not make you silly, but make the sentence "Brain is a muscle" silly. This is semantic, just say: "Hey, I am not silly. I just wrote something silly" and all the discuss stop there.
Hey, we are human, we make errors such as missing "like", and we have an ego, that could be offended, it happen, just that.
Saying "is a" followed by "and like a" make a shift from language to metalanguage, the "and" make that shift. English is not my mother tongue, I am sure I am doing error here too.
The pretest is because maybe is for the ego that one pretends to stay on deadline, or at least this is my experience, I want to show I am good and I can do it in time, is not always a matter of money.
Again, I am human, and I will stop doing unpaid work. I just did a silly thing 
p.s. I am trying to sound smart because a silly thing to argue about, but I like to sound smart, I do not care if I am not, or maybe that is my fail (to care) and I want to change it.
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