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Just BTW, for the first time ever, last week I saw a cumulonimbus that stereotypically looked exactly like a gargantuan anvil. I could barely manage to keep my eyes on the road I was so awestruck, but being on a scooter, the road had priority.
No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde
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Brady Kelly wrote: last week I saw a cumulonimbus that stereotypically looked exactly like a gargantuan anvil
My all-seeing eye sees that this means that you will use something made of metal!
Markie the Mystic sees all!
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Parallel things never meet - in a practical sense, can never know one another. I'll even add that they cannot effect one another, either.
Suggestion: Time for you to (re)watch "A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe".
On second thought, I don't think I want to get involved in this thread at all. A little creepy inside of someone else's free association.
(Note to self: Narrow Escape)
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"in a practical sense, can never know one another" In a practical sense do we ever really know our self(ves) ?
"Parallel things never meet:" well, once-upon-a-time, it was thought that light was a wave, and now we know light is either both wave and particle, or, something else entirely, which, depending on how we are looking, appears as wave, or particle.
If you're a little shy, and need me to charge for the associations, in order to feel free to get involved, just PM me credit-card numbers and validation codes.
Creepiness never hurt fiction, imho.
cheers, Bill
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BillWoodruff wrote: Parallel things never meet:" well, once-upon-a-time, it was thought that light was a wave, and now we know light is either both wave and particle, or, something else entirely, which, depending on how we are looking, appears as wave, or particle.
Giving that odd counter-example does not change parallel: it is a defined property. You are free to change the relationship of things to/from parallel as you see fit, and whether true or not, but parallel is parallel.
As for the particle/wave nature of light, this disturbed me when the first femtosecond laser pulses were reported. I realized that they were of short enough duration as to be less than 1/2 wave of the light whose color they were - how can they, then, have a wavelength. (a difficult concept due to uncertainty principle over such a short time span: the monochromicity of laser pulses is long gone).
I asked a conveniently located physicist to explain what this meant. His answer was, in fact, satisfying. He simply pointed out that, at this point, the wave-model of light breaks down.
It is, after all, only a model. Don't worry about it.
It's a good thing that upon awakening I will once again realize I am all there is in the entire universe.
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Oh, all right, then. I assumed for a moment you had stopped by for something other than your usual frown.
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Fortunately, I'm one of those people who look absolutely gorgeous with a frown. One must also remember the comfort factor and give the customers what they expect and they'll always come back.
Should I dare wear smile . . . the angles dancing on the head of a pin would stop to stare in awe.
And then, of course, there's that unabashed humility.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: It's a good thing that upon awakening I will once again realize I am all there is in the entire universe.
No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde
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BillWoodruff wrote: "Parallel things never meet:" well, once-upon-a-time, it was thought that light was a wave, and now we know light is either both wave and particle
To be fair if "parallel lines" meet in the Euclidean space then you are going to need to do a lot more adjusting that per your example. That failure would cause all of Geometry to fail and probably have serious ripple effects throughout mathematics and realistically all of the natural sciences as well.
Of course that isn't quite the same thing as parallel universes though.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Suggestion: Time for you to (re)watch "A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe".
Is that what the "Hitch-hikers' Guide to the Galaxy" is called in your universe?
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Remember to not make eye-contact with your parallel self.
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Yes, I heard he's a bit out of line 
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I was talking to myself in the mirror the other day when I realized I really was talking to myself...
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They describe the possibility of two arrows rather than one, where a pair of universes are present and moving at an equal pace, just in opposite directions.
I find that thinking to be rather absurd. First off, the concept of only two directions, and in opposition to each other. Secondly, the concept of direction--what even is direction in a pre-bang universe, or even at the moment of the "bang?" Who is to say that an infinite number of universes with time arrows in all possible directions didn't form? Why is time thought to be a linear process moving either forwards or backwards at a specific rate? I would imagine instead, a multi-verse with an infinite number of time vectors, whatever that means. 
Marc
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Non-linear time: oh yeah, I relish that !
If the directionality of Time is related to Entropy, then why shouldn't Entropy also be a phenomenon that is quantic, and Universes exist with Time moving as unevenly stacatto'd all over howsomeever many dimensions as the twerking of Miley Cyrus ?
cheers, Bill
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BillWoodruff wrote: If the directionality of Time is related to Entropy,
Another question I have is, why is time the result of entropy, rather than entropy being an artifact of time?
Ultimately, I imagine that everything is quantum, even time -- I read something about that in relation to Planck's constant, I think -- there comes a point where time and space literally cannot be further sub-divided, hence even time is quantum.
Marc
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It is truly fascinating to try and think about such concepts, or, if you will, anti-concepts !
I find it fascinating to "watch" the fluctuation of my subjective sense of "duration" during meditation.
And, I think, often, of how time moved like the fall of ice-cold honey when I was child ... never fast enough for the me who didn't even realize I was impatient ... and how, now, with 881 moons' mileage on this body, it, so often, seems to be rushing by faster and faster
cheers, Bill
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BillWoodruff wrote: and how, now, with 881 moons' mileage on this body, it, so often, seems to be rushing by faster and faster
Perhaps there is a point to the idea that entropy and time are interconnected. However, in this case, the higher the entropy, the faster time flows! 
Marc
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Well, one view is to see entropy as an emergent property of the degree or organization of the very early post big-bang universe, and time as an emergent property of entropy. In the spirit of Heisenberg's comment: "atoms are not things."
But, that's one too many emergencies for me
I suspect we are doomed by the POS beta (only 100k years old, or so) operating system (Primate Operating System with Symbiotic Virus of Language Attachment) we run that creates our fundamental sense of "Self" to always construct anthropomorphic systems that match our sensory perceptions and biological reality.
Even when someone like James Stewart Bell comes along and, playing by the ground-rules of our "scientific rationality's game," offers experimental proof of the fact that behind-the-scenes of our construction of the world: "God plays dice with the universe;" and we are that Mister Jones of whom can be said, as in Dylan's song:
"Because something is happening here
But you don’t know what it is
Do you, Mister Jones?"
And, on that happy note, I'm off to the gym to see if I can lengthen a few telomeres.
cheers, Bill
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This is more tragic as they hit the school and most of the death is School children.
![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif) My heart goes for the parents
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Yeah that one only.
Its sad that this is biting them back. History had shown than its never good on long run to work with fringe elements.
cheers,
Super
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Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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Cowards always attack the defenseless.
Luckily European governments are trying their best to make us defenseless too
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den2k88 wrote: Cowards always attack the defenseless.
???
So do soldiers. It makes little sense to attack guys who have big guns pointed in your direction.
It's a common mistake to see "the enemy" as cowards, though.
"The enemy" in this case is people with genuine religious beliefs, who see what their religion defines as evil, and want to fight it.
So, unfortunately for us, they ain't cowards; they're dedicated to something, and will act heroically when fighting for it -- and they're not going to quit, either, so we need to start talking to them, to look for a solution.
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People are killed or die needlessly in huge numbers every day, they only get reported if it is useful to the Western media though, if it is the Taliban responsible that is useful as we know who they are and can get scared they are going to come over here and do it to us. If it is a group or regime no-one has heard of then nobody cares.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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