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Yeah no wonder Google play is heavily suppressed in regions like China.
“Everything is simple when you take your time to analyze it.”
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Mladen Janković wrote: Why should overwhelming majority of customers be blocked from using one important feature of the store/market, just because minority cannot use some other feature due to external obstacles?
Google is innovative enough to overcome those "external obstacles", plus the expansion of Google play merchant account is too slow for Google. Given the global share that Android has concerning mobile devices, it makes sense for Google to support all countries, and consider even the minority developers in those countries.
“Everything is simple when you take your time to analyze it.”
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Are you suggesting that they have magic stick or that they should bribe the government?
We had similar case here with PayPal. Central bank was refusing, for years, to update regulation to allow PayPal-like services. Only year or two ago they finally done that, but receiving money is still not possible (IIRC). It might not be the case for Zambia, but I also doubt it's Google causing the problem.
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Mladen Janković wrote: Are you suggesting that they have magic stick or that they should bribe the government?
No, Admob from Google does support Zambia, they can send money to me if I'am using Admob so why can't I just sell apps? This is because the kind of app I'am creating might be better monetized with in-app purchases than ads. Paypal works here as well, but not Google merchant account.
I also feel that if Google merchant account expands it would improve the general quality of the store itself, a win-win situation on either side. 
“Everything is simple when you take your time to analyze it.”
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The spam/abusive message click should have a way for the recipient to say "Same To You" as the real possible abuse could be (and others have so noted) the one who clicked to begin with. At least when it's for no apparent reason at all. http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/5037259/Re-Google-EU-and-B.aspx[^]
I've been have an "intense discussion" w/another CP'ian and neither of us click the button. It's just, in a way, too easy.
Against my normal thoughts, maybe such clicking should be reserved for the 'super users' - even if I lose the button, myself. Just so it has some meaning.
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When you let children play where adults congregate there's bound to be problems.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site.
When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others.
It's the same when you're stupid.
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I'm offended by that; where's that report button...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Now Now Now, have we taken out meds today? 
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site.
When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others.
It's the same when you're stupid.
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I'm even more offended by that! I must seek out every post you have ever made and abuse report them all! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Oh yeah...well your cat's so fat only two legs touch the ground at the same time. 
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site.
When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others.
It's the same when you're stupid.
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Well, yo mama so fat she's on both sides of the family.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Well I'm taking my ball and going to the house. (Stomps feet and walks away)
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site.
When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others.
It's the same when you're stupid.
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Have you eventually celebrated your 1,234,567 rep points ?
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No, I was busy yesterday and missed it! 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I'm offended that I am offended at your offense. 
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I rarely use the spam/abuse option, but, having said that, I have used it.
Within 'The Lounge', certain topics are supposed to be avoided, but, people being what they are, post what they want anyway.
For the most part, I will ignore their posts, however, if spelling is changed to avoid filters, but the pronunciation and meaning remain and are offensive, then, yes, the spam/abuse option will be used.
Some people have been banned because of their choice of words and then their ban is rescinded and their general abuse continues. So... the option is used again.
While I would like to address them directly about WHY I voted as I did, I suspect it would result in a barrage of abuse directed specifically at me and then the 'revenge' factor would be played to ban me as well.
So... how do you proceed?
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So your personal taste in word usage is more important than other people's right to communicate within a forum that you do not own.
Interesting.
Note that "abuse" is not concerned with your preferences in word usage, but to abuse of the forum or its members.
I would classify denying members their right to communicate within the forum (that you do not own) as abusive toward those members, and would posit that they should have the right to respond to your abusive behaviour.
You should know that until I read your posting, I was against the idea in the OP, because of the potential for schoolyard fights.
If it helps expose hidden abusive behaviour, however, then I can only come out in favour of it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I do not own the site.
The site has rules as stated in each forum.
Disregarded the rules is abuse of the site.
The author and owner has provided a feedback mechanism to report such.
People have taken to using 'elephanting' and 'sunshine' in place of other words that are considered unacceptable in this forum. The word I took exception to was along the same lines.
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The fact that you object to a word used by another human being does not give you the right to attempt to harm him or his reputation.
What kind of world would it be if everyone behaved like that?
A sh*tty, crappy, f***ing horrible world, that's what kind.
You do not own the site, and you do not own the English language, so do not assume that you are allowed to control either.
Try looking for ways to make the day better, not more miserable. The abuse option is to prevent abuse, not to prevent discussion.
Don't abuse your fellow members by telling what they are and are not allowed to say.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Oh, you petty little wanker. I can't believe that I'm wasting my free moments on morons like this.
Tim Carmichael wrote: The author and owner has provided a feedback mechanism to report such.
Yes, it's called "writing a message".
"Abuse" is another thing altogether.
Using the abuse system because someone says things that you don't like or uses words that you don't like is:
- Abuse of the abuse system.
- Abuse of the forums
- Abuse of the laws of the country that you live in.
You Do Not Have The Right To Tell Anyone What They Are Allowed, Or Not Allowed, To Say.
Go live in Stalin's Russia, if that's the life you want to live.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I would only be concerned if you get a number of abuse reports. I think you have to remember there are probably a lot of newbies experimenting on how the site works.
Hang on.. I've just spotted a red flag, I wonder what happens when I click it.. Oops wheres the undo button!
modified 8-Apr-15 17:04pm.
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RossMW wrote: Hang on.. I've just spotted a red flag
So it's those bluddy Chinese, again!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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More likely USA Air Force who have combat training called red flag exercise.
Practicing on CP again... Abuse, Abuse , shoot, shoot, Got that red flag Sir.
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Any community such as this relies on the good sense of its members to avoid "abuse wars", and similar behavior, the problem being the small minority of abusers. The problem with giving everyone the right to report spam/abuse is not the false negatives - most spam that makes it through the automatic filters disappears very quickly - but the false positives. It is these "spam wars" that should be avoided.
What I suggest is that a certain threshold of reports be required before a member is banned. This should work something like this:
- The "abuse report" should be disabled for older messages
This would limit "abuse wars" where someone goes back and tags all of a poster's messages. - The filter should have a time component
There is a difference between someone who posted two abusive messages in the last year, and someone who posted two abusive messages in the last day. - The filter should allow for the number and quality of messages posted
This allows for human error - in both directions. A prolific poster is more likely to be tagged by accident than an occasional poster, and is also more likely to say something to which objection may be taken. - The filter should require reports from more than a small number of people
This would tend to filter out "abuse wars", where a group of friends attempt to get someone banned. - Human judgment should be exercised
This is the most problematic part.
As we are dealing with people's reputations, I feel that a human should review the reports before someone is tarred, feathered, and ridden out of CP on a rail . This is especially true in borderline cases.
I am aware that "tuning" such a filter would take some time and effort, but I believe that the results would justify the effort.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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