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Hello Bill,
Good one. You have pointed me to the right path. To understand a context of writing one must first give attention to the context and time period of author himself.
In the end you mentioned, "He had married the daughter of Thomas Mann in 1932 to help her escape the Nazis", so would that be a reference to when he makes a run saying, "I must be leaving"?
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: ...would that be a reference to when he makes a run saying, "I must be leaving"?
The "golden standard" for trying to answer such questions would be to find what (if anything) the author said about the poem, or what friends, or critics, said about it at the time. In the case of Auden, it would be most interesting to find out if his close friends the poet Stephen Spender, and Christoper Isherwood (novelist, playwright) ever mentioned this poem.
Speaking as a poet (since age eleven), imho, poetry often, like dreams, "crystallizes" out of multiple layers of experience, and out of the myriad vectors emerging from within the self, and out of the myriad external factors impinging on/defining the self and defining the nature of language in literary discourse.
This poem by Auden has a tangible musical quality to it; it's in ballad form; the language is in what you might call a "folk" form that stands in opposition to the "ornate, flowerly, romantic" tradition ... it stands in great contrast to Auden's later work when he emulated T. S. Eliot's rather "atonal" surreal symbolism.
«To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"
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Does shoplifting from the Apple store only count as scrumping?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
Mongo: Mongo only pawn... in game of life.
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I'd be willing to bet that the one bit of apple hardware that functions to perfection is the alarm at the exit of the shop.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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The Cat: So what did you do?
Lister: Well, like, scrumping. When I was a kid back in Liverpool, we always used to go scrumping.
Kryten: Oh, stealing apples? That's hardly a crime, sir.
Lister: No, but me and my mates, we used to go scrumping for cars.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I could imagine that those who steal from an Apple store would get some kind of klepto-frisson during/after the purloination not to mention pre-boost arousal, but I'd need warp-drive to imagine they would equate that with having sex.
cheers, Bill
«To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"
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Down with Darth...literally!
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site.
I know the voices in my head are not real but damn they come up with some good ideas!
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The Lego piece was missing some explosions...
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If Michael Bay made Lego movies, you can bet you would see plastic pieces explode.
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so I sourced my map file from Berkeley a while back. Works pretty good. Good map overlay for all the areas in the world where my company has something going on. I was pretty proud.
yesterday someone from India was complaining that the map was wrong and India doesn't go over that far East. hmmm, Looking at Un.org, Wikipedia and Google maps it most certainly does.
So in case you are wondering. Yes India is further East on the map than Bangladesh. Quite a discussion about this.
I love it when I am right. Doesn't happen very often.
<grin>
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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Most people are spectacularly ignorant on the placing of their countries with respect to latitude and longitude. For a fun quiz question just ask people to name the countries which lie on the Greenwich Mean, the Tropics or the Equator.
I was involved in a discussion recently when a Scottish news presenter in London was criticised for asking if it was still dark in Western Scotland the morning of the Equinox when he could clearly see daylight out of his own window. People were incredulous when it was pointed out that the whole of mainland Scotland lies west of London and some parts could expect sunrise a full twenty minutes after it.
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rnbergren wrote: Yes India is further East on the map than Bangladesh. Quite a discussion about this.
I would think it goes over to at least 27.1403N, 97.1658E.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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All that proves is that the world is indeed flat.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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rnbergren wrote: I love it when I am right.
You're absolutely right.
Easternmost point of Bangladesh is 92°35'E, while Easternmost point of India is 97°20'E. Source[^]
rnbergren wrote: Doesn't happen very often.
Its enough if this happens when it matters.
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There is no such thing as a "correct" 2D map.
This is because trying to map a sphere onto 2D is not possible without deciding on where information is distorted.
The mercator projection, which is probably what you are looking at, is the most common world map but is not particularly accurate as it shows Europe to be larger than it is.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I remember a discussion, many years ago, as to why America was depicted as being larger than Africa on a school globe.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Won't let me search how I want (with a couple of exceptions).
I live in the middle of England, almost exactly, I can easily get to all the major airports, do not make me select just one before I can search.
I don't care where in the world I go, don't make me select a specific country before you let me search.
I want to search by features, not departure and destination.
I have a budget, I want to go for 11 or 14 nights, I want all inclusive, I want kid friendly pools, I would prefer some sort of free water park access, I want evening entertainment.
I don't care where.
Thomson / First Choice seem to be the only people who let you search like that, although you do have to make some sort of choice in either the from or two fields, you can make multiple selections.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Lot's of the All-Inclusives in Jamaica are:
Truly all-inclusive (tipping forbidden)
Take Kids off your hands all dayHave nightly entertainment (sometimes great, sometime cheesy)Water Parks? Not so much - but beaches, pools, windsurfing, cruises, human-powered water stuff, etc.Kid(s) stay free with parents at many resorts (you do need to get them there)Most have restaurant style dinners - but (massive) buffets for breakfast, lunch, which generally include custom cooking on the spotI actually recently booked through "CheapCarribian.com"[^]
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I went to Barbados on my honeymoon, some 12 (I think) years ago this summer. And I started off looking there, but it is well out of my budget at the moment. Mexico, Jamaica, and the Dominican Republic have turned up inside it though.
My brother has just been to Mexico with his two kids, and I know someone who has been to the Dominican Republic before, but I don't know anyone who has been to Jamaica.
The one question that nags away at me from things I have heard is, is it safe? I have heard suggestions that once in your resort in Jamaica you stay in the resort and straying from it is not a smart thing to do.
North Africa is very cheap at the moment, for those of us in the UK, but I'm not sure I trust it not to blow up at the moment.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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