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As far as I've seen it is more like a Win 7 - Linux Desktop merge.
With additional Tiles, for those who want them.
In short, it looks like Win 7 with a flattened start menu. What most people probably will struggle with is the multiple desktop thing.
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So you have Windows 7 with Windows 8 license (downgraded)...
What is really interesting that 10 should be released (OEM) only in late July...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Yep, I now have a Windows symbol in my desktop's task bar, combine that with an unhealthy amount of disc access. It looks like it will be upgraded for free (?) I was gonna post has anyone else seen it but this answers my question.
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Our government is running XP. The American IRS is running XP. The English goverment is running XP.
Now I should move to "Windows 10", because Win7 would not be secure enough? To take the slogan of the Excell-team to another level, I'll be eliminating my dependencies to Windows.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Really? Care to cite a reference? Curious is all.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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It would require multiple references; anything specific you'd be interested in?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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I assume you're referring to CNN[^]?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Okay, that's interesting reading. And, FWIW, I am not sympathetic with those bozos in the IRS. If a business has a pressing need, it redirects funding from stupid parties, seminars in Hawaii, lavish offices and bonuses and focuses on the crown jewels. For the IRS, that would be information security. But we're talking about the most bloated, corrupt regime in history so....
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Time for me to buy another SSD. Ain't no way they be touching my dev machine.... Trust but verify.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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In a winery, the regular taster died and the director was in urgent need of a replacement.
A drunkard with ragged, dirty look came to apply for the position.
The director of the factory wondered how to send him away.
They tested him.
They gave him a glass with a drink. He tried it and said, "It's red wine, a Muscat, three years old, grown on a north slope, matured in oak barrels".
"That's correct", said the boss.
Another glass.
"It's red wine, cabernet, eight years old, a south-western slope, lightly-charred oak barrels previously used to store Scotch".
"Correct."
A third glass.
''It's champagne, high grade and exclusive'' calmly said the drunk.
The director was astonished.
He winked at his secretary to suggest something.
She brought in a glass of urine.
The alcoholic tried it. "It's a blonde, 26 years old, pregnant in the third month. And if you don't give me the job, I'll name the father!"
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I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want.
The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions."
They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads.
The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy.
Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I'm not surprised. I figured Windows 10 and Spartan would just be refreshes of the current products with some new functionality. They're both mature products and MSFT is just looking to keep the money coming in. MSFT new monies are going towards the cloud.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you
That's probably the explanation for why they're so vigorous about pushing everyone to upgrade.
I really hoped they would actually deliver on their assurance to listen to the users. 
Oh well. I guess I'll use Windows 10 just for compatibility tests and stick to Windows 7 otherwise. Screw you, MS, you can't take it away from me 
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Listening to the users != doing what the users want.
Common mistake in believing so.
I believe they've listened well, analysed the data properly, and then they involved marketing...
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Can live tiles please just go away and die.
I want to work. I want to get me own stuff done. Having the Operating System (of all things) constantly trying to grab your attention is insanity. Let apps do that so at least we have a choice to uninstall them, but the OS should be completely invisible to us.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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On Facebook, there are these "memes", One I particularly
like is, "Being a good programmer is 3% talent and 97%
not being distracted by the internet". So now, it looks
like that task will be even harder . I thought that
Microsoft was good for business. All this imposed
distractions, reminded me on how Huxleyan (i.e. Brave New
World) our existence is becoming .
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Thanks for the heads up, Richard! 
Will Rogers never met me.
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It is very simple...
If Microsoft rules the OS market - and it means the it able to sell OS to the majority (and developers are a minority) - it will force developers to work with Microsoft's OSes...Like it or not...
So when Microsoft states that it listening to users it does not mean you!!!
(And for that matter Windows is not an OS only for along time - and the OS role is less relevant for Microsoft with every release...)
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Hmmm... app development time... wonder how much $$ I could make injecting a system level dll to defeat the live tiles?
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Great analysis and reporting on that. Thanks for the info.
Also you said,
Richard Andrew x64 wrote: Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.
We will all use it though. We will.
I'm serious and joking and I don't know if it's funny or not. Probably not. 
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want.
I take it this is the first build of Windows 10 you've installed, then.
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Dear System Admin nerds
Coders get cranky with you when they supply you with installation packages that they have tested, you then tell said coders to test in the "company's" software delivery system.
This gets tested and it fails - coder then spends time trying to figure out why.
Coder then discovers Software isn't getting installed in the expected location.
Coder has conversation with "admin" type dude to find out why - coder then discovers installer has been edited to change installation path/name to suit the new (unheard of) rules/installation policy.
Coder gets cranky and tears "admin" a new one about "communication". Particularly when coder had to fix said software (in a rush) in the first place due to a change that admin made earlier wot broke software for many important users.
Bryce (aka - cranky coder)
MCAD
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Sounds like a Monday, Bryce... Good luck with that. 
Will Rogers never met me.
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Having worked with a lot of 'admins' in Africa before; I feel your pain.
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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bryce wrote: Coder then discovers Software isn't getting installed in the expected location.
Hmmm...well, to be honest, if some software doesn't let me install in a location of my choosing, I'd get rather peeved...
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