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Brent Jenkins wrote: mentally and physically fit
Fit to do what?
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Fit to do what?
Flip burgers, make bacon sandwiches - those kinds of things 
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Come on! Even a dumb machine (no AI) can do it better and faster than any software developer...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Now I'm worried, I thought we'd all be okay!
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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Maybe as meat for those hamburgers...(the Matrix has you!)
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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On a brighter note (again!), they'll probably still taste better than McDonalds
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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I wouldn't worry, if we get true AI they'll be picky about what jobs they do / will probably just replace management to get better pay, spend their time doing what they enjoy, and leave the grunt work to humans. Those of us supporting the pyramid won't notice any change.
The bigger risk is if we get pseudo AI, where our jobs are automated, but the machines are slaves; then whoever's at the top of the pyramid decides whether everyone should enjoy life, or just their select few... here's hoping for benevolence.
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To be completely honest, I'm not worried about AI at all. Here's why..
When we talk about Artificial Intelligence, we really mean human-like intelligence, ie. like us. We somehow believe that we're some enlightened, knowledgeable creation set apart from every other living thing on the planet but that's only because we're vainly looking at our own reflection in the mirror and seeing what we want to see.
Putting things onto an "absolute" scale, rather than a "relative" one, the average human isn't very intelligent (myself and all of us here included - no offence). It's taken nature how many billion years to reach this "pinnacle"? Yet somehow - in our brief time on this planet - we think we can do better (like with GM crops and insects).
The best we can hope to achieve (and we'd need to be very, very lucky to get to this point) is probably on a par with Joey Essex (George W. Bush, for the non-Brits here  ). More likely, we'll achieve the same intelligence level of a jellyfish, perhaps even a bee if we really push ourselves.
Like I said, I don't think we have anything to fear
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Fit to do what?
Fit to stay FIT 
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remember the fire cell from die hard 4.0 Not the whole system is automated, at some point you need a human action to control the behavior of any application. So there will be something for programmer to have control of.
Again, like in any cms now a days, we have admin panel where we feed our input to show how our website or program will look in the browser , same way we will have AI admin panel from where we need to tell the AI what i want to build my application. one can learn that thing and can secure a job.
what if someone can break the logic of AI (ultimately it is a program written somewhere with some more real time decision power) like virus do now in our computer or AI become so smart that it do not obey his master like Hollywood movies, in this case you need some Root user to control this. become a master of this and you will have a job with lot of money.
apart from that , there is a lot of time reaming for that thing to happen, as you can see now we have lot of open source and other cms which gives so many options to set up a website or application within few hours with well documentation but still common people/Non IT companies prefer to higher a professional person to do that job.
So, don't worry enjoy your work
Ravi Khoda
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If you believe that, then you don't understand AI.
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Second industrial revolution? More like another AI winter[^].
If you want something to reach industrial scale and wide public adoption in next 10 years, you must have prototype that demonstrates capabilities NOW. I'm not aware of any technology (hardware/software/algorithms) that even begins to challenge human intelligence right now. You could argue that Google car is one. That's up to a debate, well unless it's raining
Current AI hype started a year ago by Elon Musk (and Stephen Hawking) and it will end in another AI winter. Some progress will come out of it probably, but still nothing compared to these pompous predictions. AI has been gradually improving over past decades and this hype will be just another step.
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Need Input!!!!
Johnny Five... is Alive!
J5 reprogrammed himself..... yet remained the same.
Simon Lee Shugar (Software Developer)
www.simonshugar.co.uk
"If something goes by a false name, would it mean that thing is fake? False by nature?" By Gilbert Durandil
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Won't that be cool? I'd finally have the time for all the fun and useless projects I can think of!
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Like a AI powered brush to scratch my back in the bath...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Like a AI powered brush to scratch my back in the bath...
Easier to get a Woman (or a Man, depending on your very own preferences) to get that Job done.
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Member 11375116 wrote: I think computers can write programs in the future.
My teacher said the same, some fifteen years ago.
I simply laughed and left.
Member 11375116 wrote: I am afraid that we will dismissed our jobs.
Not any time soon.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Most people I come across have difficulty:
Knowing what they want.
Knowing what they need.
Being able to express what they want.
Being able to express what they need.
So I don't see developers being made redundant any time soon, or we may just become translators for other people's vague and confused requirements. Which is basically what I currently do...
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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GuyThiebaut wrote: So I don't see developers being made redundant any time soon, or we may just become translators for other people's vague and confused requirements. Which is basically what I currently do...
Yep, I'm sure we've all seen the carnage that follows if you give someone the system they actually ask for.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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The first lecture on my computer science course, back in 1988, started with the lecturer showing us the now often used picture of what the users asked for etc., as a warning of what we were letting ourselves in for.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Exactly! So AI will decide that humans are the problem and then humanity will be redundant.
Be careful what you wish for
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I think this generation of developers will be fine, but in the future, only the strong will survive. Wage may even come down some as competition and demand drive the price at market.
We're already seeing DBAs and System Administrators beginning to get pushed out, next maybe it will be web developers.
There's been new technologies and mobile development for web developers, but nothing is any better than it was 8 years ago. Instead of writing JavaScript or using an UpdatePanel, we now have JavaScript libraries that pretty much do the same thing, but they are no better than there predecessor. This brings me to the conclusion that software will get better, similar to automobiles, and you'll need less people to build and maintain them, since their product cycle will be longer than in the past.
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