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Don't you require photographic evidence of updates for Facebook? 
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence <b>EAT BACON</b>
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I've always wondered when somebody would be stupid enough to post the contents of the toilet bowl on Facebook - surely it's only a matter of time - and if Facebook would indeed censor the post...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Unless you have a really large @$$, it would just be "Game of Throne".
Hogan
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No, that is called "Game of Gross". 
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while reading the EU software development salary survey,
oreilly 2016 european software development salart survey
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i wondered if HTML/JS/CSS should be counted as one language or not.
Yes, technically they are 3, but how often does anyone use them completely on their own?
HTML on its own, yes.
JavaScript, maybe - node doing some fancy server side stuff.
CSS, uhm, does this do anything without HTML?
If write some JQuery, you could end up writing all your HTML as strings and push to screen.
point being, from the survey average used number of respondents languages was 3.6. Well sure, if split them as 3 languages.
but how effective are you? Not as effective as someone that knows Bash, Java and Swift (i was gonna put c# and java, but wanted 3 somewhat different languages)
So maybe for future surveys, those three (HTML/JS/CSS) should be combined as 1 or 1.5 languages?
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maze3 wrote: HTML/JS/CSS should be counted as one language
Two of the three is not a programming language at all!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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From that I assume that one of HTML and CSS is. 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Hang on, just because it is a greater tar pit then the famed esoteric joys of BrianFock, doesn't mean it isn't qualified as a fully fledged skript [sic]
veni bibi saltavi
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Must be HTML. The 'L' in HTML says so.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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You could consider HTML/CSS to be declarative languages.
As for Javascript, I wouldn't call that a language.
Marc
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I didn't say those two are not languages (as in information exchange) but not PROGRAMMING languages (as in information processing)
As for the quality of JS - I'm still before my evening meal...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Its a language, it was just a bad choice for web. Now we are stuck with a language that should have died decades ago.
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maze3 wrote: CSS, uhm, does this do anything without HTML?
You can style an XML document with CSS, rather than using XSLT. Though I don't know how much fun that would be.
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As our Israeli correspondent pointed out neither HTML or CSS should be classed as programing languages. At the very least I would suggest a language requires logic and iteration; not to mention data manipulation and I/O.
veni bibi saltavi
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: a language requires logic
Which again invalidates JS in nearly every example I've ever seen... 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Darn you. I was going to post the same video.
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Now that is a big chunk of BS from a professor...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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So, does this mean .csv is a programming language?
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Exactly my point after watching that video.
Should have added a  I suppose.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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Most of these surveys are rife with such stupid questions. That's akin to asking a carpenter or an auto mechanic, "How many tools do you use to do your job?" My response: "What blasted difference does it make what the tradesman uses, as long as the end result is a properly constructed house, or well tuned vehicle?" 
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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True, but I would hope anything that could require maintenance uses a tool that is readily accessible versus something that costs thousands of dollars, takes hours to figure out and is used only once.
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maze3 wrote: i wondered if HTML/JS/CSS should be counted as one language or not.
JS, no. It can be used outside the browser context. But HTML/CSS should definitely be considered together.
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Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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yeah, if you know just javascript great.
but if know javascript for purpose of html/css use, being that if you want to make a website, you should know these 3 languages
combined they are one programming language, is what I was trying to suggest.
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