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Strangely enough I was working in Turkey in 1975 and one of our team was from SA, and I recall talking about that.
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Cp-Coder wrote: in South Africa we did not get TV until 1975
Consider yourself fortunate - think of all the cr*p shows that you missed between 1948 and 1975!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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I believe the word is "disingenuous" for you know damn well that just because no one mentioned something or it hadn't yet been discovered it wasn't there or was harmless. The implicit (explicit?) ridiculing of serious problems.
Black Lung Disease? PSD (Shell Shock in WW I)? Hey - air pollution in general. I recall all the redlining of "acid rain" . . . that is until their fishing hole became crystal clear and dead, or more probably, the paint on their pickups was blistering. Asbestos didn't cause cancer, either, in them good ol' days. They used to x-ray feet (in shoe stores) for fittings.
[edit] Don't you miss the days when cigarettes weren't deadly? [/edit]
It's times like these that I find, on a relative basis, a reason to respect flat-earthers.
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My point was that we did not know about these things then. And in truth the climate was changing far more slowly than in the past 20-30 years.
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So - just to clarify - I took the intent your post backwards?
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I seriously think we should take the warning labels off everything and let nature work it out. sometimes.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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I remember a documentary item that said that worrying about detrimental effects from your food is far worse for you than the actual detrimental effects in the food!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I can think of various plants which are not really considered food that can terminate your life ASAP. No radio active activity required whatsoever. In my father's "ornamental" garden I know of at least three species ( I will not mention their names ) which will kill you in a very short timespan.
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And this statement of yours is supposed to prove . . . what?
That things besides radiation can kill you? Is that, somehow, supposed to assuage the problem of radiation in the environment?
I'd say their are radio-active nuclides of most elements. If one wanted to be paranoid, remember that we're a carbon-base life form and C14 is radioactive.
Basically, worrying about bananas may be silly but ridiculing background radiation and/or contamination is just plain stupid. As people who found out they've too much radon in their home and now have lung cancer. Or people who got sheet-rock from china containing Sr90. Or the same isotope in European cheeses after Chernobyl. Mmmmm. Yummmy !
I worked with radioactive materials for years - and one thing we all had was a healthy respect because you can't see it, smell it, feel it or, to a degree, get rid of it. You don't even have to close your eyes to pretend it's not there. That, however, doesn't make it go away.
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People really like to treat floating-point quantities as boolean: present or not. Easier to think about, even if it's wrong.
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If that scares you, consider this; oxygen is a poison, and causes cancer. The reason we age, is due to DNA copying errors caused by oxygen.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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As I put elsewhere in the thread:
Your body (and all know life on earth) is carbon-based and a tiny fraction of all carbon is radioactive C14 isotope. That is probably awaiting the next release of these exposes.
And perhaps underscores my peeve that almost all persons leave school scientifically "illiterate"
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Quote: that almost all persons leave school scientifically "illiterate" Not always totally illiterate. Some of them know just enough to be dangerous!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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How else are you meant to eat a banana in the dark if it isn't glowing? Sheesh.
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Chris Maunder
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In the dark I find my bananas with my geiger counter. Surely you do have a geiger counter?
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I'm in Canada. I just head towards the nearest warm thing.
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Chris Maunder
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Shhhh - California will require a Prop 65 label on every banana sold.
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A Probable Look At the Day Ahead[^]
What good be more purrfect?
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I'm not a cat.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Well, actually, as a parallel to a similar question (Schrodinger), you both are a cat and are not a cat - until we can prove otherwise.
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...and you may not exist until we see you.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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yup - had it happen to me.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I used to have two "guest" ( my brother's ) cats come to laze in my veranda regularly because they really enjoyed the very warm environment. They never rolled around on my keyboard but I did like them a lot. Oh well, once a cat person, always a cat person.
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My cat. Every zoom meeting.
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Chris Maunder
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