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So I like putting lots of raisins into oatmeal. Opening a new extra large bag of raisins (2lbs=907g) I extracted a handful or so an tossed them into the bowl. So far, so good.
I began to close the Stay-Fresh zip-lock seal for the bag. Then it happened. Forget about a bag of grapes, we're talking raisins here.
Is it possible to have fresh raisins? What the hell does that mean?
An oxymoron at best. How long can this go on? Is such package labeling allowed in the EU, or do they label it 'not quite fresh raisins' or something like that?
There goes my day.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Is it possible to have fresh raisins?
Yes - Raisins can be more or less dry! 
Apart from that, I can't imagine why you'd put them in anything. The ONLY acceptable consumation method for raisins is to throw them directly into the mouth. Everything else spoils both the raisins and the food they are put into! 
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Implicit down-vote for lack of imagination.
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Johnny J. wrote: Everything else spoils both the raisins and the food they are put into!
I love cinnamon raisin bread...more than plain raisins by themselves. 
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ESPECIALLY in bread - raisins have NO PLACE there!
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Ye from the land of Lutefisk (as my father is) has no right to criticize others' taste. 
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I love cinnamon. I love raisins. Cinnamon raisin bread is almost like a drug for me.
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Implicit pity for lack of Christmas pudding.
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Yes, raisins should have some moisture content... if left out, they become suitable fuel for miniature slingshots.
My family has taken to buying green grapes, slicing them in half, putting the halves on a dehydrator and thereby making our own grapes. They get put in zip-lock bags for later consumption.
We also dehydrate apples, plums, strawberries, cranberries, pineapple and mango.
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That still doesn't change the fact that by its very nature a raisin cannot be fresh. When it was fresh it was a grape (or half grape in your methodology).
Had the package been labeled "Stay Moist" I'd not have given it excessive consideration.
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But, it is no longer a grape; now it is a raisin. Once turned into a raisin it can dry out and become stale. So yes, there is such a thing as a fresh raisin.
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Illogical logic -> just because something can get dried out and stale doesn't mean it's fresh.
Dried out - loss of some or all of it's original moisture content
Stale - unfit for eating (stale does not necessarily imply dried out) due to a loss of acceptable taste properties.
vs. spoiled or rotten, which can include either, neither, or both of the above.
BUT NONE of these states implies that the source is a "fresh" anything.
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Not true.
While a raisin is no longer a fresh grape, it can be said to be freshly raisined, and therefore a 'fresh' grape. At which point in its voyage to become slingshot ammo it will cease to be 'fresh' but I know not how to define that point.
Along the same lines, I have trouble determining when sour cream has gone sour...
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Keep following that line of logic and declare any intermediate step as a starting point.
Fresh slingshot ammo! QED?
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But they're not calling them "fresh grapes".
Using your reasoning, they would only be truly fresh if they were seeds and horse-poo (or other fertiliser).
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Same thing with "fresh" graded parmesan cheese. The cheese was aged at least 90 days, it can't be fresh anymore!
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Is it possible to have fresh raisins?
Just as possible to have rotten and moldy raisins?
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Slacker007 wrote: Just as possible to have rotten and moldy raisins?
Uh - yeah - ??????
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Maybe I judged you too harshly. You're starting to make sense 
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Forced to serve, he followed closely. (7)
DRAFTED.
Anyone want to supply (pretty obvious, I thought but oh well) solution?
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Nope, still no nearer. I'd thought of pressed, deriving somehow from pressing things closely together, or apostle with the 'post' bit meaning followed, but had to give up when my brain started melting.
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DRAFT verb (MILITARY): To order people by law to join the armed forces.
DRAFT verb (SPORTS): To follow closely, reducing the drag by exploiting the leaders slipstream.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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DRAFTED means both forced to server (in the military) and following closely in someone's wind shadow.
I got hung up on "follows" meaning that two words are joined together and so got nowhere
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Correct!
I thought it was quite easy, but I guess I over simplified it.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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