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"It's British Foreign Texan for GMT"
Except in Texas, where they use
"It's British Foreign Californian for GMT"
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Actually, it's not British. Its French.
Universal Time Coordinated (dumb Frogs can't even get sentence structure correct).
Jim
aka dumb American ham radio operator who, along with 700,000 other dumb American ham radio operators, only uses UTC when logging radio contacts.
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and a every single pilot that ever got a weather briefing... although we tend to call it ZULU
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Except that [generally] GMT gets adjusted for Daylight Savings, UTC does not (at least in my experience - not to say I'm any kind of expert here).
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Nope, GMT stands for Greenwich Mean Time, and is not adjusted - the UK switches between GMT and BST (GMT + 1) for winter and summer respectively.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Interesting. I'll look into that on our servers. I've seen the GMT reference (yes I know what GMT is short for), but not a BST. but you are right - there is a separate check box for whether to adjust for DST. We have our severs set to UTC for consistency...
Thanks for the info...
Mark
(just a cog in the wheel in Denver, CO)
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OriginalGriff wrote: "It's British for GMT" You must mean "UTC", SQL doesn't have a GETGMTDATE function.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: I could never get our American programmers and analysts to fully understand time zones
And we wonder why our educational systems are failing.
I bet they all knew where the Twilight Zone was though!
Marc
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None of them were what you would call stupid, it's just that the whole concept of how to use time zones seemed to elude them. Always baffled me.
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Perhaps it was actually your accent they could not understand.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Yeah most likely; I always wrote my emails in English.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: ; I always wrote my emails in English. Yep that's it. Try writing in American next time.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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No you mention Twilight Zone to these youngsters today and they just stare uncomprehendingly at you.
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joeller wrote: No you mention Twilight Zone to these youngsters today and they just stare uncomprehendingly at you.
True. I date myself.
Marc
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Need to make them watch more SyFy channel XD
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: I could never get our American programmers and analysts to fully understand time zones, irony, that other countries exist, that "America" is a pair of continents comprising lots of countries, that English accents aren't cute (they just don't sound bluddy awful like yankee ones), or that everything that they believe was invented in the US wasn't.
It must be a developer thing, but I hate seeing incomplete statements.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mea culpa.
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Marc Clifton wrote: UTC
University Town Center -- it's a mall in La Jolla.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: University Town Center -- it's a mall in La Jolla.
Yes, I used to shop there, was a frequent customer of the Ritz Camera that was there (is it still?) And is it actually part of La Jolla or University City?
Funny you mention that, I was almost going to post that acronym in my original post, but decided nobody would get it (though I suppose there's a website for the mall.)
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: frequent customer of the Ritz Camera
As was I when I lived in the area, 1995 - 2001. There are very few Ritzes left, probably not that one.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: As was I when I lived in the area, 1995 - 2001.
Interesting. I moved back to the East Coast in Dec of 1999. It's amusing to think we might have been in the Ritz store at the same time. Very small probability, but not 0!
Marc
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Let's just assume we met! And if you worked at SAIC we can say we worked together.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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The US won't be in the world cup long enough for them to need to use blasted-colonial time zones.
With any luck, the UK and NL won't last much longer, so the noise will decrease to bearable levels.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Marc Clifton wrote: Well, what do you think they should use, UTC?
Well, didn't China ("which we call Red China") fairly recently switch to use a single time zone for the entire country?
It makes sense. It really doesn't matter what you call the time when you get out of bed. People in the west DO get out of bed five hours later than the people in the west, so why should they both insist of calling it six o'clock, create a lot of problems. As long as you live isolated, you might want to insist on your day starting at 06:00, but once you start cooperating with someone far away, I cannot see one single advantage of labeling the same point in time with different values. I wouldn't mind UTC beeing established as the "time zone" for the entire world.
(My country, Norway, is a tiny north-south string of land. Nevertheless, we span two complete time zones: The people up north (-east) see the morning sun two hours before the people on the west coast. We live well with that, and have always done.)
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