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Technically, to pick nits, it *is* C++ as C++ is a superset of C. What you are really saying is that it isn't "Object Oriented Programming" which is true, but it is still within the definition of C++.
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Chuck O'Toole wrote: Technically, to pick nits, it *is* C++ as C++ is a superset of C
Does the newest ANSI C++ standard incorporate the latest ANSI C standard as a subset?
Last I heard that was not the case
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The point is, C++ did *not* decommit the "char" data type nor pointers. std::string is *not* the only way to do string manipulation in C++. It may be the perferred way for some people but it's not the only way.
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Chuck O'Toole wrote: The point is, C++ did *not* decommit the "char" data type nor pointer
I was responding to what appeared to be a general comment about the language in general and in its entirety and not just one small part.
And that general comment, at this time (new standards), is wrong.
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Context dude, gotta read comments in the context of the thread
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Chuck O'Toole wrote:
Context dude, gotta read comments in the context of
the thread
And respond in that context.
Since another poster read your response in way similar to the way I read it, it suggests that your response is the one at fault.
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C++98 is not a superset of C90 - especially when you consider const and what happens when you cast away const. C allows modification of literals (string and constants) through pointers while C++ doesn't or rather considers it undefined behaviour.
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The point is, C++ did *not* decommit the "char" data type nor pointers. std::string is *not* the only way to do string manipulation in C++. It may be the perferred way for some people but it's not the only way.
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Agree with Chuck... technically it is C++.
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Can people give me a list of compilers or interpreters that are capable of creating drivers (.sys files) followed by a link. 
Simple Thanks and Regards,
Brandon T. H.
Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst).
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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You already have it, and I also gave you a suggestion as to how to find some tutorials and samples.
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But when I use the WinDDK I get 3 files for whats suppost to be 1 file (the .sys file or driver). What I want to know is that if the driver or .sys file can work without those 2 other files (one .obj file and a debug database file) independently.
Simple Thanks and Regards,
Brandon T. H.
Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst).
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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Your original question asked for a list of compilers, so I'm not sure where you are going with this or why you are concerned. The .obj files are the output of the compiler which is then passed in to the linker to produce the executable code. In most projects there will be many .obj files input to the linker. In the case of driver builds the executable is a .sys file which has a special header used by the driver loader. The debug database is another extra that helps in debugging a new driver and, while not essential, is a useful tool for the developer. Using some other compiler would not make any difference to the build process or final product, and indeed why would you want to when the WinDDK kit has been created to do all the menial tasks and allow you to focus in writing your driver?
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: Your original question asked for a list of compilers
Your right, but when you said I already had them.
Richard MacCutchan wrote: I'm not sure where you are going with this or why you are concerned
I'm wondering why I got 3 files when I compiled (successfully), when I compile a driver, I get the .sys file, but two files aswell.
But now I get it, I thought the .sys file needed those two files to run, like as if it was a dependency, but I guess not. But does WinDDK compile it as a binary build.
Simple Thanks and Regards,
Brandon T. H.
Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst).
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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Brandon T. H. wrote: But does WinDDK compile it as a binary build.
No, WinDDK does nothing, it is merely a set of templates and libraries collectively known as the Windows Driver Development Kit. You use that framework to write your driver code which is then built into the binary files as follows:
The C/C++ compiler (any one will do) converts the source code into interim object files which are in themselves not complete. They may have references to functions in other modules, and are all based on a starting address of 'relative' zero. These object files must then be combined by the linker which fixes external references by finding the object or library that satisfies the reference, rebases all the starting addresses to reflect the real start of the final program, and builds them into a single binary file, with various bits of meta-data required by the system to load the program. Whether the final object has a .sys or .exe extension is just a matter of convention laid down by the operating system. Any interim files may be used to rebuild the executable or aid in debugging as required by the developer, but are not critical to running the program.
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Brandon T. H. wrote: if the driver or .sys file can work without those 2 other files (one .obj file and a debug database file) independently.
Yes, of course, even if it is a debug build.
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Ok, thanks thats what I wanted
Simple Thanks and Regards,
Brandon T. H.
Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst).
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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Ok, thanks thats what I wanted.
Simple Thanks and Regards,
Brandon T. H.
Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst).
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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Ok, thanks thats what I wanted to know.
Simple Thanks and Regards,
Brandon T. H.
Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst).
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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Unfortunately my internet was acting weird and posted my message 3 times :S.. could you excuse those please.
Simple Thanks and Regards,
Brandon T. H.
Programming in C and C++ now, now developing applications, services and drivers (and maybe some kernel modules...psst kernel-mode drivers...psst).
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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Just use the DDK, everyone else does, and it works, very very well.
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Hi, I have no idea how to start programming C++ for a serial port.
I need some help/ examples for me to start. I tried looking through the net but I have no luck.
I have previously written some simple C++ programs that I can use the keyboard or scanner.
I have a PLC connected through RS232-USB cable to my PC (COM3).
It will send a simple string text like 12A456789, 1288U
It is transmitted through 9600 speed, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, even parity and flow control none.
Once the program receives the string text, I need to do a simple comparison and save the text to a txt file according to the content received. EG, if contains 1288U, save as 1288U SN.txt. if contains 1288I, save as 1288I SN.txt It should be a simple if and else statement that I can do.
If possible, once the save is completed, the program will send a confirmed message to the PLC (COM3).
Ultimately, I will use bartender commander to extract the txt file for label printing.
Any kind souls can help me with the serial port portion of the C++ program? It will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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I suggest to read the CP article Serial library for C++[^]. The article is a very good introduction to serial I/O with Windows. You may use the provided library or use the sources as base for your own code.
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Lots of samples to get you started here[^].
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