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GeneralLet the blame game beginmvpAbhinav S6 Dec '12 - 1:42 
We always try to find people to blame when India loses in cricket.
Whom do we blame this time?
 
I blame the Indian Football Association.
If India was good in football, none of us would have cared for Cricket.
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin Pinmember_AK_6 Dec '12 - 3:41 
Yes could be. They are not even fighting. Its a meek surrender and it looks like we might have an inning defeat this time.
.AK.

GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpNish Sivakumar6 Dec '12 - 3:36 
Btw the Eden Gardens pitch manager and MSD did not see eye to eye, I bet that did not help either.
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin Pinmember_AK_6 Dec '12 - 3:39 
Could be true because I read the news that because of MSD they brought in another curator (MSD supported) at eden garden few days before the match to help the original curator.
.AK.

GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpNish Sivakumar6 Dec '12 - 3:41 
While I don't think that doctoring the pitch will help us in the long run, if the Indian captain asks for a specific wicket type, the curator's gotta do that. The BCCI should select grounds where the curators are willing to do this. It's how every other Test playing nation does it today.
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Nish
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin Pinmember_AK_6 Dec '12 - 3:44 
What his (MSD) intension was to create a spin track where we can make them struggle but it simply backfired. They are playing the spin better and we are not so that the gap now is very wide. He wanted to win this series any how to maintain his smooth run as captain. Loosing this series will certainly dent his reputation.
.AK.

GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmemberThe Reincarnation7 Dec '12 - 0:49 
MSD got his way on the 2nd pitch and look how that turned out.(pun intended).
 
BTW there was some talk between the commentators over here that thy thought the process of a home team producing a wicket that specifically suits them had been outlawed. I'm guessing due to the fact that MSD is publicly stating that he is wanting certain pitches that this is untrue? Also I would have thought it would be hard to prove.
GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpNish Sivakumar7 Dec '12 - 1:49 
The Reincarnation wrote:
MSD got his way on the 2nd pitch and look how that turned out.(pun intended).

It gave us an exciting game. Compare that to the curret high scoring game. England may still win it, but had India played just a little better it'd easily have been a high scoring draw. I back MSD in his request for turn and bounce. Enough with these flat dead pitches.
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Nish
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmemberThe Reincarnation7 Dec '12 - 2:36 
Yeah I can see how getting beat in 3 days is preferable to getting beat in 5, it doesn't prolong the pain. Poke tongue | ;-P
GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpNish Sivakumar7 Dec '12 - 3:26 
To me it's not painful. I like to see good games. In fact to me it's a relief that foreign teams can win in India, that will shut people up from saying we doctor picthes to suit our team.
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Nish
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmemberThe Reincarnation7 Dec '12 - 4:36 
Nish Sivakumar wrote:
saying we doctor picthes to suit our team.

Surely that's undeniable giving MSD'd well publicised comments before both this game and the last? It just appears that this time it hasn't worked.
GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpNish Sivakumar7 Dec '12 - 4:40 
The Reincarnation wrote:
Surely that's undeniable giving MSD'd well publicised comments before both this
game and the last? It just appears that this time it hasn't worked.

Well this time they didn't follow his instructions.
 
And my original point was more that it's not really "doctoring" that gives us an unfair advantage. It's just a matter of giving an advantage to the team with the better spin bowlers and batsmen who can play spin well. It's always been India until this series. So it's not about being "unfair", it's about playing well on turning tracks.
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Nish
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmemberThe Reincarnation7 Dec '12 - 4:46 
I agree it isn't 'doctoring'. Afterall an International teams players are going to be more suited to playing on pitches that resemble the pitches they have been used to growing up and learning the game on. These type of pitches are going to be the most natural and easiest to produce. For example it would be quite hard for an English groundsman to imitate an Indian pitch in England given the weather and conditions. It's going to be much easier to develop a green pitch, which by default will suit Englishmen as this will be what they've grown up playing on.
GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpNish Sivakumar7 Dec '12 - 4:47 
Which makes your team's performance even more amazing.
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Nish
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmemberThe Reincarnation7 Dec '12 - 4:58 
I wouldn't say amazing. Take Cook, who is on a par with only Amla at the moment, out of the equation and the two teams will be quite even. Also India are in a transition stage at the moment which happens with all great teams in any sport. You've had a couple of long-term Batsmen retire recently and a couple more who should be thinking about it, as a result you have a mix of inexperienced and past-it performers. In a year or two, when Kohli and Pujara will be more experienced and Tendulkar and Sehwag have moved aside to let some talented youngsters through, you will be in a lot better shape. Hopefully some better bowlers would have emerged by then too.
GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpNish Sivakumar7 Dec '12 - 5:00 
Yeah, we've always been a team that does well in short patches and then struggled for years. Just that the fans built up some high expectations based on 50 overs and T20 cricket. We've never been a top Test team at any point in our Test history. That said, I am hopeful that new players will come who will help get us back to the top-4 (not the top spot).
Regards,
Nish
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmemberThe Reincarnation7 Dec '12 - 5:04 
I thought (oficially at least) that you were the top team for a year up intil the ENG series last year? Before that I would have guessed it was only the fact that AUS were phenomenal that you wasn't the top team for longer?
GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpNish Sivakumar7 Dec '12 - 5:08 
The official ranking is based on stupid stats that mean little.
 
But it was a sad state of affairs for India that when we were at our best ever state (team wise), the Aussies had Warne, McGrath, Gilchrist, and Ponting Frown | :-(
 
If 2 of those 4 players had never played cricket, we'd have been #1 for at least the 3 years between 2005-2008 Frown | :-(
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Nish
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmemberRajesh R Subramanian6 Dec '12 - 20:02 
Microsoft is evil. Let's blame 'em.
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpPrerak Patel6 Dec '12 - 20:09 
Global warming?!
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpSandeep Mewara6 Dec '12 - 20:59 
Abhinav S wrote:
blame when India loses in cricket.

I blame 'Indra Devta' the 'God of Rain' for not blessing us with rain.
 
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GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmemberThe Reincarnation7 Dec '12 - 0:45 
Monty's Dad for emigrating to England.
GeneralRe: Let the blame game begin PinmvpNish Sivakumar7 Dec '12 - 5:09 
The Reincarnation wrote:
Monty's Dad for emigrating to England.

If he hadn't, they'd have moved to Canada and Monty'd have been running a gas station in Toronto.
Regards,
Nish
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