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This[^] one.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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BTW, you are aware that the fonts are different sizes and that they don't line up, aren't you?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I just upgraded my DevExpress WinForms subscription to a DevExpress DXperience subscription - with source. Why? I am working on learning WPF and Web Development, and I am trying to get away from WinForms. It may take a while to be approved (Huntington is kind of slow on things like this sometimes), so I may have to wait a day or two (or three, or four, or five) for the purchase to be approved so I can download.
EDIT: It only took about an hour. That was unexpected.
brisingr_aerowing@Gryphon-PC $ rake in_the_dough
Raking in the dough
brisingr_aerowing@Gryphon-PC $ make lots_of_money
Making lots_of_money
modified 24-Aug-13 12:10pm.
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Brisingr Aerowing wrote: DevExpress DXperience subscription - with source. Why? I am working on learning WPF and Web Development
Cool. If I had time to do some web stuff in C#, I would definitely use DX -- overall I've been very pleased with their WinForm controls, my only gripe being that sometimes it's very time consuming to figure out the nested layers of properties to get to the property I want.
Marc
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Yeah. The way the WPF controls have to nest is rather difficult to wrap your head around (e.g. BarManger->DockingLayoutManager->LayoutGroup->LayoutGroup->LayoutPanel, and it gets even deeper). The WPF RichEditControl also cannot use a BarManager/Ribbon that is already there, it has to create a new one (Annoying). From what I see, there aren't as many themes, and fewer controls. The 'Smart Tag' system used is also very confusing sometimes. You also cannot assign the name of a control to a property, e.g. RichEditControl.BarManager cannot take the name of the window's bar manager. And the Properties window will only create a new bar manager.
Overall, I am not really impressed with these WPF controls. There are a lot of issues that make them very difficult to use quickly.
brisingr_aerowing@Gryphon-PC $ rake in_the_dough
Raking in the dough
brisingr_aerowing@Gryphon-PC $ make lots_of_money
Making lots_of_money
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Howdy all,
I'm about to start a series on Javascript development, for the life of me I cannot work out what the category is for it - under web development section there's HTML/css, but no JS - there's no JS on languages and I want to get my articles in the right place.... any ideas?
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Ah so you ran into that old chestnut!
I have raised this before in Sugs and Bugs, but nothing was added (ok it was along time ago now!)
The best fit at the moment is Web Dev - Client side, but with Javascript moving to the server, that is even no longer a reasonable fit, maybe moving into the Web Service domain now.
Under the Languages section there is also no JavaScript.
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OK so I'm not missing anything then! Alright, client side it is (for now) but like you mentioned, that's going to not cut it when I move onto the Nodejs articles!
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Sacha put his Node.js articles in General Programming - Internet / Network
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Morning all,
Disregarding VisualStudio / Netbeans / Eclipse, what other IDEs do you guys use or recommend, the types of things I'm thinking of are along the lines of IntelliJ WebStorm[^]
a couple of other I have found are pretty basic and probably do not cut it nowadays.
Any suggestions welcome.
Cheers,
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Good question. I've been using Sublime for text editing, but have actually found that Visual Studio with the latest re-sharper is very good for JS - asides from the fact you cant have a 'plain' web project - it's always going to try and compile a bunch of files.
Just as a suggestion, I think a lot of people would be interested in this - why not put up an article of what you've tried so far, pros and cons and then let others add to it? Then we might get a bit of a community round-up of the best IDEs?
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Dave Kerr wrote: I've been using Sublime for text editing
It is impressive on both functionality and performance.
But you need superpowers to use it. I cant remember all the shortcuts, a steep learning curve for me (or may be I am getting lazy).
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I alternatively use Aptana Studio 3[^] along with Visual Studio 2012. It used to be an Eclipse Plugin, but they have created this stand alone Studio edition. And it works really well. Much more light weight, not a dinosaur like Eclipse.
I use it for initial web design, where it's just HTML, CSS and Javascript. I really like the intellisense features (almost everything has auto-complete, even css classes, file/folder paths).
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I recommend Microsoft Expression Web. I use the free version, and I'm very happy with it.
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I class that in the Visual Studio category, so looking at others, but thanks.
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VS2012 and Resharper 8: A project I've been working on takes about 80s to load and it's not a big project by any means. The mouse would stutter and freeze and debugging wasn't very quick; by that I mean the transition stepping from one statement to another was almost too slow. Clearly something wasn't right. I uninstalled VS2012 and RS8.
VS2010: I installed it and then RS8 and a few tests reloading the same project got the time down to about 12s. The mouse no longer stutters, debugging is 'fast' again.
I really don't know whay that should be so. Going back to VS2010 may well be the compelling reason why I might not use VS2012 again. I don't know if VS2013 is any better but for now, VS2010 will stay. Naturally, I'd be happy to read any thoughts about this and whether it was an anomaly but on two machines it has to be more than coincidence alone?
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Strange indeed!
For me VS2012 is generally faster!!!
What about VS2012 without Resharper?
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I would be inclined to try re-installing VS2012 again. The installation had maybe just got corrupt.
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For me VS2012 is almost instantaneous compared to VS2010. At work where it has to discuss its credentials with every AV product infest on the system I can actually go and make a coffee with 2 copies are started.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I think you need to completely uninstall resharper before making assessment of VS2010 vs. 2012. Although it is an excellent product, if can slow things to a complete grind which is in fact why I'm not using it at the moment.
Not saying 2012 isn't to blame, but my suspicions would be the other product.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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That's an interesting observation, Rob. I'll remove RS8 and see if VS runs faster still now that I've only got 2010 installed. If it does. I'll put 2012 back on again and see if it gets a second wind.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Rob, I ran some more tests using VS2010. It makes for interesting reading.
With RS8 enabled opening the solution takes roughly anywhere from 12-15 seconds.
With RS8 disabled (you can do this in VS' Tools -> Options menu) opening the solution takes no longer than 2-3 seconds. I don't know if RS8 caused my problems with debugging in VS2012 but as soon as I've finsihed the project, I'll reinstall VS2012 and see how times stack up with and without RS enabled. Next week sometime.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Yes, that's a considerable difference! 5-6 times speed. I'm not surprised, but that's the hit you have to take for RS.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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