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Then what are you, if not a Real Programmer? Don't you spend your free time writing stuff in assembly?
Go ask yourself this and that 
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Oh, no no, really, I am not delusional I really want to communicate with such people, as for asking myself I do all the time, that's what happens when one have no one to talk to - talking to oneself - not a bad thing by the way.
Get down get down get down get it on show love and give it up
What are you waiting on?
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When you talk to yourself, do you get a reply? Is it a "voice in your head"?
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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They haven't declined, they just swapped workplaces to making some realtime stock investment programs for some hedgefunds.
What? Me cynical?
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Your signature got me thinking:
Nightwish - 10th Man Down[^]
... Devils instant my eternity ...
Get down get down get down get it on show love and give it up
What are you waiting on?
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Very apropos for its vintage. 
Sanmayce wrote: I wonder what caused the decline of such people.
Improvements in storage and processing power.
/ravi
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There still quite few assembly programmers, at least where I am. In the last year I was programming an HC08GR16, that has 16K of memory that include the program, working memory and interrupt vector tables.
There's fun stuff like performing stack analysis, timing analysis and figuring out ways to streamline code so you can fit more in in addition to programming the microcontroller peripherals to communicate with other microcontrollers in the system. Granted one can use ANSII C to program, but I found myself still going through the assembly code to make sure the compiler does what I intended.
I wouldn't consider myself a master at assembly but I do like the direct manipulation of the hardware. No drivers to deal with, every speck of code for every bit of memory is right there. Some of the people I know amaze me at what they can do in just 16K of space.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Go work for a place such as JPL, NASA, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and other government military contractors.
There are also the medical device companies to consider.
When one mistake costs hundreds of millions of dollars or a human life, the programming is still like that.
To know and not do, is not yet to know
http://www.codeofthedamned.com
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Any Java programmer could do it.
He'd have to include 6Gb of frameworks, though.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Quote: Java
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Sanmayce wrote: I wonder what caused the decline of such people.
Same reason that we no longer have demi-gods, because myth is not reality.
The reason someone might (which is what the quote says) have put a piece of software in a very small space is because they needed that functionality, that was all the space they had and they managed to create a solution.
Which is no different than anyone else solving some need.
Now it could be that in fact that very specific piece of functionality was very, very clever. But there were many people doing clever things when space was very limited.
Doesn't mean people do not do clever things now. And where it is really clever and satisfies all of the needs of the business and isn't just a demonstration of how "clever" the programmer is.
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I guess I am either naive or believer in supernatural.
People are different, as I see you are pragmatic while I more of a dreamer, one of the things that I really don't understand is how the payment dictates the creativity of artists/coders to such extent that it became the primary not only concern but the motivation itself, this is sickness in my eyes, I believe in power of human inner sensitivity (not intelligence) in other words: soul - something uncontrollable by money.
Not long ago I posted some excerpts on what inspiration really is at: http://forum.thefreedictionary.com/postst31183p3_MASAKARI--The-people-s-choice--General-Purpose-Grade--English-wordlist.aspx[^]
Doing things in poetical soulful manner is what fascinates me, being in such mode of pure revelation (some call it meditation) is what interests me not mere coding skills - every smartass can do incredible feats.
Get down get down get down get it on show love and give it up
What are you waiting on?
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So there's thunder in the distance and suddenly purple lightening fills the sky - half a minute later a wind rips through the street, the strength of which I have never witnessed before, knocking off roof tiles, overturning bins and even garden sheds!
There's around two inches of water outside the front door as if it was just dumped from the sky in 5 seconds.
I think a mini cyclone just passed through Cambridge UK 
...or maybe it's the upcoming tribulation...
Just been out to look at the roof of my flat and there are a few tiles missing from it.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
modified 25-Jan-14 11:27am.
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We had something similar over here in Woking about the same time. At least part of a large tree was knocked over just up the road from where we live, and lots of other detritus scattered around.
Veni, vidi, abiit domum
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In spite of how it is being reported by some news channels my experience is that it wasn't just a strong wind it was a very sudden and extremely high energy squall.
What leads me to thinking it was a cyclone/tornado was the incredibly sudden onset of the high wind and it's very fast end - I went out to the kitchen and saw one roofing tile, which much weigh around 1kg, flying through the air I don't think I'll lose too many man points in admitting that a slight wobble of the upper lip occurred too.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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...and in Kent too, about an hour later. All was calm & serene, then sudden severe winds, lightening & hail. Lasted no more than 5 mins but apparently trains are in chaos because of trees down on the tracks all over the place...
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The hospital with the daughter.
She was at a friend's house. 5 Double Bundy OP's and on to The Convoct.
It's now Sustsalua Dsy. Rral Austrslians don't get sick.
That's why she's a half wog.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Is this some kind of Australian slang I just read?
"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[ ^]
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It's DrunkenGiberish: Google can translate it if you have the ChromeBooze Option(TM) (I use it for the CCCs, it works pretty well)
"I have been to the hospital with my daughter, who was drinking at a friends house. She had too much to drink because it's Australia Day, and is rather the worse for wear. I suspect she may be half Aboriginal Australian"
I think.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Not quite. She turned 14 20 days ago
I'm the one drinking. Hence the spelling.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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 I was drinking when I was 14... when I could get hold of it...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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So, something happened to this article of mine[^], and the images disappeared. Since I don't often read my own articles, I didn't know, until this elephant gave it a 1 vote because he didn't understand it without pictures (which, I admit, is slightly dificult).
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Of course it is! It's your fault that he doesn't understand! 
I'm really starting to worry about the next generation now... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Ask Sean to fix the images and to remove the vote, which is clearly an abusive one for the given context.
Veni, vidi, caecus | Everything summarizes to Assembly code
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It's a blog post article, and the images have disappeared there, when I changed hosts, so Sean won't be able to help, but I've already restored all but the last one. I'll just recreate it if I have to.
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