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OriginalGriff wrote: Quick! Unplug the fridge!
You're responsible for having spoiled all my food! AND the beer is now piss warm and undrinkable! Well, thanks a friggin' million 
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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But on the plus side, you have averted Judgement Day...which is a Good Thing.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Without cold beer, Judgment day is welcome - just put me out of my misery already... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am.
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Have you got your medication today?  (that was a joke).
Seriously, should we know what is this about? (this wasn't).
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I think you did not get the joke, read the title and the text again 
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Yes, I got it, late, a joke icon should be there shouldn't it? 
What? this is the best excuse I've found...
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WrongWindowException
Greetings - Jacek
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Rather a JokeFailException
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It is not an exception.
Veni, vidi, caecus | Everything summarizes to Assembly code
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Greetings - Jacek
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Are you willing to put that in writing ?
“But I don't want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can't help that,” said the Cat: “we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.”
“How do you know I'm mad?” said Alice.
“You must be," said the Cat, or you wouldn't have come here.” Lewis Carroll
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I have read in news that MS announced itself as a 'device and service' company. This model seems to mean they look at software as service instead of product.
Latest changes seem to be in that direction too. Office (365) is in the cloud so is a version of Windows (Azure) and SqlServer. There is also a minimal version of Windows (RT) produced for devices which doesn't have desktop.
We are obviously at the middle of a change and 'Threshold' must mean we'll be at its peak probably in a year. It seems to me that desktop is going to be removed completely (at least the way it is today).
I was wondering how will service vs. product affect me as a Windows developer and also what will be the impact on companies I design software for? What shall I prepare them for and how to decide about their long term plans?
What do you think is the end result of all these changes on Microsoft platform?
Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you! 
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Hamed Mosavi wrote: What do you think is the end result of all these changes on Microsoft platform?
Loss of market share.
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Probably. I think they don't care, maybe for them it's only the paying market share that matters.
What is left unconsidered is the impact of non-paying users over paying users and the market in general. I mean when majority of people are using Windows, it probably has effects on a new tech user.
However, I have no idea, when it comes to predict future. Maybe Microsoft is actually ditching Desktop PCs. I was hoping for more feedback. If true, it sure has huge impact on my decisions and consults I provide to companies about their investments for future.
I've heard Adobe stopped their desktop line of products too and planning to move to service model. I haven't read it from a reliable source though. I find such news frightening and I can't find any serious discussion on this matter anywhere yet.
Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you!
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And here comes their storage system: https://preview.onedrive.com/[^]
This seems to actually be their strategy. A unified cloud service based family of products.
Planning to move to Germany, looking for a job there!Looking for a Windows desktop programmer? I look forward to hearing from you!
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The UIK is about to intriduce law to stop their sale to under 16s, and the BBC come in with this comment.
WTF are they talking about? It is a nicotine patch delivered in steam with some flavourings. Risk? Are they THAT stupid?
The fact is its just a bit too much like smoking, and thst the problem, as opposed to putting a patch on your arm, and this has the patronising middle classes in uproar, 'perhaps its too nice! I must assume the position of knowing better than them and stop them doing it!'.
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Link for the linkless: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25900542[^]
You're overreacting a bit, aren't you?
The article says that the plan is to raise the age at which you can buy "normal" cigarettes from 16 to 18, and to prevent the sale of the "E" version to under 18s at the same time. It also says that the reason is to prevent under 18s being addicted to nicotine by the "E" version and moving onto the "regular" type from there.
I can't see that's a problem: it's already illegal to sell cigarettes to children (and has been for decades as you know) so this is just a "catch up" change to legislation to adapt to changing technology, isn't it?
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I'd say that it is stupid to have different age borders for 'regular' and 'electronic' cigarettes.
I am now down on a level where I don0t smoke while at work (Means no smoke for me until 5 or 6 PM, on weekdays) and I believe we would be better off by just illegalizing them.
Veni, vidi, caecus | Everything summarizes to Assembly code
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Marco Bertschi wrote: I believe we would be better off by just illegalizing them.
Surprisingly, that turns out not to be the case!
The prohibition on alcohol in the US in the early 20th Century showed that making something illegal doesn't necessarily improve the situation: there is research that says consumption went up, not down, and the medical problems (and gangster activity!) increased dramatically.
Think about it: Dope is illegal almost everywhere, but that doesn't stop it being either the first or second most popular recreational drug taken worldwide, (the other being alcohol itself). And it costs an absolute fortune every year to try and (unsuccessfully) clamp down on production / import / distribution!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: Surprisingly, that turns out not to be the case!
The prohibition on alcohol in the US in the early 20th Century showed that making something illegal doesn't necessarily improve the situation: there is research that says consumption went up, not down, and the medical problems (and gangster activity!) increased dramatically.
Maybe you are right: But 16 is definately too low for an age barrier, 18 would be more adequate.
OriginalGriff wrote: Dope is illegal almost everywhere, but that doesn't stop it being either the first or second most popular recreational drug taken worldwide, (the other being alcohol itself). And it costs an absolute fortune every year to try and (unsuccessfully) clamp down on production / import / distribution!
You can't compare Dope to Alcohol/Cigarettes: It is by far more dangerous. I've seen many close friends loosing the control over what is going on in their live, they started to consume more and more of it.
The real Danger with Dope is that the risk that it takes over your entire existence is by far higher than with Alcohol/Cigarettes. Smoking affects your lungs, but not your thinking capabilities, and the risk that you suddenly end up being an alcoholic because you occasionaly drink on weekends is really low, too. I've seen people going down the drain because they lost control and were taken over by dope. They suddenly had a lot of cell phone numbers, some of them even started to deal. They all were intelligent people, but the Dope made 'em stupid.
Veni, vidi, caecus | Everything summarizes to Assembly code
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Marco Bertschi wrote: It is by far more dangerous.
Nonsense.
Marco Bertschi wrote: I've seen many close friends loosing the control over what is going on in their live,
And I know someone that committed suicide with no alcohol or dope involved. Thus it follows that everyone should do both to prevent suicide (same causation you are suggesting.)
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Erudite_Eric wrote: WTF are they talking about? It is a nicotine patch delivered in steam with some flavourings. Risk? Are they THAT stupid?
I hope it was an irony and after having seen a title "BBC says 'E Cigarettes are not risk free'" I was expecting sth like: "O thank you Cpt. Obvious". Now I am not so sure.
Greetings - Jacek
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It isn't the BBC making that comment, it is the UK's chief medical officer who they are quoting.
Also it seems the e-cigarette trade agree with both the sentiment and the law.
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