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I'm on contract and go to a customer's location three days a week. Today, they expanded the team so we can't fit around a conference room. Many of us hoped that we could move back to our office and work in a quite environment. Instead, the client decided to put us in a "SCRUM Pit". The only thing it has done is magnified the aspects of the environment that we don't like. Its louder and provides more interruptions. Even better, it wasn't set up when we got here. I spent my first hour moving tables, chairs, power cords. I'm living SCRUM out of a text book 
Has anybody had a positive experience with a SCRUM Pit? If so, how long were you in the environment.
Hogan
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Face + Palm, SCRUM = management fad in my view! something that worked in one situation applied to all does not always work... it's like when I'm coding or building electronics at home TV/HiFi in the back ground, place I was at before we had Radio 1 (?) BLASTING all day. Couldn't get any work done at all. If it works once it shouldn't be applied every where! 
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You know you've moved up the ladder when you don't need attend one of those scum meetings (And having be Agile+Standup)
... you ever see a board member be Agile? They aren't. Because management only give instructions. Only foot soldiers need be agile and having to report what they done & failed everyday, in a SCUM meeting!
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So I'm not the only one that calls it SCUM!
Hogan
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indeed! Board meeting typically guys sit down with glass of Whisky in hand and they don't typically talk about what they accomplished on daily basis!
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The first rule of the Scrum Pit is you don't talk about the Scrum Pit.
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I hate stuff like that. It's BS and only lowers productivity... Can't understand why management doesn't understand that you need peace and quiet when working as a programmer... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Johnny J. wrote: peace and quiet
But I like to program to ZZ Top[^]. 
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Yeah, but that's your choice... Wear your headphones like a good boy... 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Johnny J. wrote: Can't understand why management doesn't understand that you need peace and quiet when working as a programmer...
Peace and quiet... OK! [^]
Ahhhh... relaxing, best code throughput with this kind of SCRUM 
-- RP
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I'm being dragged into SCRUM as well. My first manager here had one weekly phone call status meeting. My new manager has 3 SCRUMs a week (MWF). Plus every other week I get to have an additional one on one meeting with him. How much will have changed between 3:30 PM Friday afternoon (my one on one meeting time) and 10:00 AM Monday morning?
Currently I have my own cube but I'm losing that in the next week or so to move to a communal area. Where am I supposed to put all the stuff I have accumulated over 20 years in programming when I all the area I will have is 2 little wedge shaped tables? How am I supposed to secure my belongings with no drawers much less ones that lock. The first thing I'm going to be getting is one of those science fair tri-boards to put on my desk.
Until last week we had the ability to work remotely 2 days a week, now it's 5 days in the office. A dictate sent down by a guy who works in a completely different city.
I was just getting used to using SalesForce to manage my projects and time reporting but now I get to use PivotalTracker for project comments and updates and Freckle for time reporting. But I still have to respond to SalesForce because other departments can't see our PivotalTracker. We also had to move our code repository over to Git from a well established Subversion system because the people he was over were already using Git.
Excuse me now, I'm going for a walk about before I start throwing things.
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I feel your pain. The code is open source not open plan.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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If
snorkie wrote: they expanded the team so we can't fit around a conference room
... then you aren't doing Scrum or any form of agile any more. A team of that size can't operate on the same level of interaction and giving you a bigger room for standup won't stop that from being the case.
Agile is for small* teams, management's job is to organise the people available to them into teams of appropriate sizes working on appropriately scaled problems, and find appropriate product owners² so that an agile approach within each team can work successfully.
*: Varies depending on sector and the style of your business and people, but 'fits round a table' is a good rule of thumb. In my company we have teams of typically 4 or so and things work well.
²: One of my least favourite pieces of terminology in agile. The product owner does not own the product, necessarily, and he isn't even necessarily asked about the details product. He's more of a domain expert or prospective end user, generally.
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I have actually re-branded the process to
<ScrumDictatorsName>Scrum . Since it is not agile or self organizing. The only person that truly believes that it is still SCRUM is the management that won't let us change anything. So I'm here to vent about it!
Hogan
modified 4-Mar-14 11:24am.
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BobJanova wrote: 'fits round a table' is a good rule of thumb. In my company we have teams of typically 4 or so and things work well.
Yes, I've heard it stated as "3 - 9 or 6 +/- 3" .
Now don't get all nerdy on me and try to exevaluate that as one expression. 
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You may have misheard him?
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Count yourself lucky. I almost got a job where I'd have all that plus 'pair programming'.
Do I have to share my juice box as well? And wear shorts?
Seriously, this sh!t was thought up by some variety of creep with low-level cunning instead of intelligence, because they hate anybody who can think for themselves. That's all. Everything else is bs designed to con gullible managers into smuggling it into our lives on their behalf while they take the fee and snigger up their sleeves all the way to the bank.
1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual.
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Doesn't it smell rotten   in there?
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It is *like* management cannot manage it, so they either are so loose that their systems grow into absolute disarray, or they are just looking for that Magic Bullet to manage a difficult (to them) process (which they fail to understand).
So, they fall for ads like:
Are you whipping your Developers with the Right Whip? If not, you will NOT get the Right Results, how could you? It is NOT your fault, it is the Whips fault. Try our whip! Here is how it works... Sounds Nice, right? Even developers like this whip. (9 out of 10 developers preferred this whip over being smacked with a Waterfall boulder, *the other 72 developers quit the team because THEY could not handle it!)
On the other hand, I find Pair-Programming to be a great tool for bringing new people up to speed. And an even BETTER tool for confusing Motion for Progress!!!!
Love this:
Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote: 1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual.
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If you liked that, you will love a series from the BBC called '1990'. It was created by a chap called Wilfred Greatorex and shown in 1978. He called it '1984+6', and it is available only from Pirate Bay. If you can't get it, or a proxy, ask a friend in a country where it hasn't come to pass yet.
A pal in North America ftp'd it to me. The reason they will never issue it on DVD or VHS is because they showed it once and got Maggie Thatcher all the way to real 1990, incidentally icing the Soviet Union on the way.
The (present) BBC must be sh!t scared to show it again. 
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Code-Pairing was an "innovation" of XP Programming, which turned out to be a complete failure if you read the history of the Chrysler C3 Payroll Application where XP was "invented"...
Steve Naidamast
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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Pretty much sounds like a labour camp to me. Are you in North Korea?
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SCRUM is so last decade. All the cool kids are doing Kanban[^] now.
It's Agile, Jim - but not as you know it.
Anna ![Rose | [Rose]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
Tech Blog | Visual Lint
"Why would anyone prefer to wield a weapon that takes both hands at once, when they could use a lighter (and obviously superior) weapon that allows you to wield multiple ones at a time, and thus supports multi-paradigm carnage?"
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