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Forogar wrote: I have recently been in a discussion with an annoying fanatic here in the lounge after coming to the defence of another member decrying the idiot position of said fanatic.
One will find fanatics on both sides of the isle. Leave your comments so that people will see what you have said.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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JimmyRopes
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JimmyRopes wrote: One will find fanatics on both sides of the isle.
The ones around here often straddle the middle.
“Use the word 'cybernetics,' Norbert, because nobody knows what it means. This will always put you at an advantage in arguments.” Claude Shannon (Information Theory scientist): letter to Norbert Weiner of M.I.T., circa 1940
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BillWoodruff wrote: The ones around here often straddle the middle.
I know what you mean. One day they will be arguing this and the next day that.
They just like to debate but have no real conviction.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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I find offbeat responses to idiotic or abusive posts to have interesting effects, often ending the troll's participation. E.g.:
Troll: "All you Creighton basketball fans are a bunch of idiots. You [expletive ending in 'ing'] deserve that [expletive] humiliation you got."
Me: "Don't mind [first name (preferrably) or handle of troll]. He woke up this morning with a tragic infestation of Lithuanian cumquat beetles, and hasn't been the same since. #YoudBeInABadMoodToo."
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I just love it for past 2 hours of owning it. I just need to find a way to get rid of marketing messages so my hangout remains clean. Great phone thus far BTW.
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Possibly your carrier. I've owned it for about a month and not a single marketing message in my hangout.
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Yeah my carrier sucks. It is Vodafone after all. We have a provision to remove our numbers out of the list legally and I thinking to go that route. It takes couple of days to get effective but I have been told it just works.
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We have the 'Do Not Call' list over here (with plenty of provisions that allow politicians and their ilk to ignore it) and it works well enough. Call someone who is on it, they report it, you get fined.
I would love a "Don't send me telemarketing crap via text / email" list as well. The bane of spammers everywhere.
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Every time they try things like that they instantly become targeted list of real people that spammers use from outside of list du jour's jurisdiction.
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Yeah, it would be nice to have, but I'm wondering when the do not call lists will be treated the same way. Oh wait, it already is with cheap/free IP calls, it's easy to route calls with the scam tech support.
The solution is obvious then, isn't it?
... Nuke them from orbit.
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It's the only way to be sure.
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Got one recently as well... so far, really like it and wonder why I hadn't gotten one sooner. 
FYI: No marketing messages on mine either.
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Here's one example[^] I just blogged about.
I continue to despise duck-typing and their ilk. This took me a couple hours to realize what was going on.
Marc
modified 8-Apr-14 12:57pm.
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Oops. Fixed it. And yes, that's the post. Thanks for pointing out the bad link!
Marc
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"with implicit behaviors"
I'd include default things like default access modifiers. 
Everything should be explicit. Only the worst developer can expect the next developer to be more skilled.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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To windows XP. May the door that hits your backside on the way out hurl you under a bus!
*crash*
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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It worked. It was better than Win 98, and better than Vista.
It still works for a lot of people...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Exactly why so many businesses still depend on it.
I think there's money to be made here, if there's someone smart enough to pull it off. First, decompile the POS and create a baseline source code repository. Then start analyzing its behavior and methods until one becomes an expert in the internal workings of the code. Create a service to continue to maintain and upgrade and thwart hacking attempts against the XP core and market it aggressively and at a price point just below the cost of replacing an existing system with a modern one. Early retirement is within your grasp if you can pull this off.
When I embarked on the Peacekeeper ICBM Program we sought and received the assurance from HP that the 21MX series minicomputers would be supported throughout the life cycle of the entire missile program, which they promptly provided. We, in turn, bought many $100 millions in 21MX type minicomputers to operate the system, then were informed after about three years that the company had changed their policy, and henceforth no support or spares would be available for this series in the future. At that time all system support and spares were based at Hill AFB in Utah. A couple of technicians quietly bought up all the scrapped parts and internal circuit boards they could find for these soon-to-be obsolete computers, then retired from the Air Force. At retirement, they were the sole source for repair services and parts in the US for this series of computers, and the DoD had billion$ invested in obsolete equipment that needed service only they could provide. I wish I'd thought of that...
If you can figure a way to do something similar to continue support for XP, you'll not only be doing a great service for the world economy, but assuring yourself a secure retirement, as well.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Roger Wright wrote: Exactly why so many businesses still depend on it.
Not necessarily because it is good, but because of the cost of upgrading to a newer operating system.
If the organization is unionized then any change to the environment means that training needs to be given to all employees. One cannot expect a union worker to take it upon themselves to learn anything on their own. 
Even going from one office release to another entails training for each employee, a costly process for limited rewards. 
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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XP was a great O/S. It worked the way it should and was a major improvement on the likes of Windows 95/98 bring the stability of Windows NT to the masses. I am still happily running it on several "internal only" duty machines.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Cough, Cought, I still have and use a Win 2000 machine (mostly for running old bits of embedded software that won't run anything newer), man you could throw rocks at it and wouldn't crash. 
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Emphasis on *was*. It was a major improvement on 9x in stability and 2k in compatibility with consumer software; but it dating to before MS was serious about security showed in it having infection rates about 2x as high as vista and 3x as high as w7. It's long since overstayed its welcome. Good riddance.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Quote: It's long since overstayed its welcome. Good riddance.
Obviously, other opinions may differ (including mine).
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Really? One of the most used and probably most loved tolerated OS gets this?
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