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This deserves more upvotes.
What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.
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Collin Jasnoch wrote: Windows 8.1 does not look like Windows 7. It looks more like a polished product.
Are you saying that W7 didn't look like a polished product?
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I wouldn't want to use W7 on a tablet, there are other OSes out there which do that job just fine. That said, MS should always have produced one product for tablets and one for the desktop. One-size-fits-all was a daft idea from the outset.
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Collin Jasnoch wrote: a polished product
By "product", do you mean "turd"?
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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modified 11-Apr-14 10:36am.
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I was asking if you did. Besides, I couldn't even tell which "product" the "it" referred to in that sentence, I suspect some intentional ambiguity.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Collin Jasnoch wrote: My wife has an iPhone and an iPhone.
An iPhone for both ears, stereo iPhones it could catch on, I'm sure Apple will love the idea. 
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Shameel wrote: microsoft-windows-8-retreat
Is that like "Run away! Run away!"?
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Doesn't surprise me at all: Win 8 was a phone (maybe tablet) OS designed for touch input.
Most desktops have much bigger screens, and no touch - so it doesn't work very well for them, and take up reflected that.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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It's good that MS can realise it made a mistake and go back to what worked. 8 was an attempt to push computer users into a tablet paradigm, and it just doesn't work.
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Now they should put menues back in Office.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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May be it's just me but I did not find any issues using W8. I used it for 10 days. May be it is because I make very little use of mouse. I prefer running command straight from the run dialog.
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My suggestion to MS would be to keep the windows 8 start screen but as a live wallpaper to the desktop which means you cannot have small icons on your desktop but only the windows 8 start screen. Hence the users are not confused as well as the beauty of the live tile is preserved 
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This is a complicated issue.I dont't think windows 8 was that bad.
But it appears the microsoft doesn't understand that people will complain when they try to rush a system to make a new sale. Or the importance of testing the system with users. It seems that someone said "looks ok, let's sell it"...
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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I've been using and developing desktop apps on Win8 for at least a ear now. Honestly, it doesn't give me any problems and I switch back and forth to Win 7 effortlessly.
The only "discomfort" I experienced was a few days of wondering where things were. Not unlike switching to other versions of Windows over the years.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Hi All,
I have been a grouch/miserable over the last few weeks with a project lacking data, not really understanding the problem. I have made a few posts here miserable as sin, sorry(  ). Finally Boss man saw the light and told me to do so & so, doing so and so, customer coming over Monday they both need my the thing I am working on to work so it arms, elbows in to it. I did find a bug in the paper work which had me stumped for a time and led to some odd Q&A questions (answered by PK Fox & Griff Thanks guys!) with out that problem I would have got much further. Running on ![Java | [Coffee]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/coffee.gif) & very little else! But I will get something completed today and now back to the fun!.
Thanks All for putting up with me!
Glenn
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glennPattonWork wrote: Monday they both need my the thing
Er... umm... yes, you are working too hard. When this is over you need to spend some time on a quiet place, a VB free zone if you will. 
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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For once I thought I am reading email. Take a break, talk about something totally unrelated and come back to problem. Often helps me.
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And...and...it's POETS day!
So take the battery out of the phone, grab a tent and bugger off somewhere for the weekend where VB can't find you! 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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'Grab a tent'??? Question for you in the Q&A area Help!!!!
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Congratulations! It's a good feeling knowing that you will actually finish.
I ran into something similar in my PhD research. Darn program just wouldn't give the right answers. I finally tracked it down to a typo in some technical papers, which had been copied by others and put into other source code. Everyone said they tested it, but no one actually tested it over the range of parameter I'm interested in.
Once I found that, everything works fine and I can match experimental data within the measurement accuracy with my numerical models. So, after about 3 or 4 months of fighting and banging my head, I finished that and another module and wrote the documentation in a week. Now 2 more modules to write, then test, then I can finish my dissertation and get ready to defend it.
As you said, it is frustrating, but the feeling of relief and joy when you finally see a light at the end of the tunnel is fantastic!
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Doesn't seem to have it's own website[^], but I reckon after a few more I won't give a flying faarrrkkkk.
So far it is tasting excellent and I don't think it will get any worse the drunker I get.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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