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Klingon developers like bold personalities like yours.
Yusuf wrote: UPDATE: I have a backup, but lost a hour worth of work...
Some man points gone away...
Veni, vidi, vici.
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FTFY
CPallini wrote: Some man Klingon points gone away...
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Have a template that says "START TRANSACTION" at the top; that way you can always rollback or commit your command.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Yes? May I help you?
I also told you never to call me that.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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So...you joined today. Welcome aboard. Enjoy, sit down, call the cat an Elephant.
I know it may not seem like it, but most of the messages in the Lounge make sense. The exceptions being anything posted by DD after about 22:00 GMT, and pretty much anything by BlueWaffle or me. Or MM after the pubs open. Or Nagy, come to think of it.
So try to avoid messages like "wat up with you" and a series of winking icons, as they will not make you any friends.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: The exceptions being anything posted by DD after about 22:00 GMT, and pretty much anything by BlueWaffle or me. Or MM after the pubs open. Or Nagy, come to think of it.
So... 90% of Lounge content?
What is this talk of release? I do not release software. My software escapes leaving a bloody trail of designers and quality assurance people in its wake.
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Do not trust the walrus.
The salmon run is late this year.
I hear the cuckoos are mating in the Appalachians.
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harold aptroot wrote: The salmon run is late this year.
"late"?
"late"?
Sure you are? Not "pink"?
Elephant! Come with me, if you want to live.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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But wait, shouldn't we get the microfilm?
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Member007 is on it.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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007[^] hasn't made contact since going to Kiev.
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harold aptroot wrote: I hear the cuckoos are mating in the Appalachians.
BTFY (Broke that for you.) 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I have created a syllabus for an "Intro to Programming" course. I am open to suggestions on how to tweak it*. You can see it here:
http://jsfiddle.net/clayshannon/LnWAp/[^]
* If you have a "better idea" for a syllabus, simply create a "fork" of that and provide the link.
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Isn't this more of an "intro to being a programmer"?
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I hope you've included a section on how to do your own research and use search engines to increase your knowledge.
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Yes, that's in the "Google Is Your Friend" section.
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Did you also include the section that teaches people how to always ask for "example code" when posting a question on Code Project?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: Did you also include the section that teaches people how to always ask for "example codegive me codezz asap" when posting a question on Code Project?
FTFY
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson
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Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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Beginning itself is wrong. Who says everyone should learn to code?
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You must not have read it, because it doesn't say that. The title itself ("Can Just Anybody/Should Everybody Learn to Code?") should make that clear.
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I did. To me, it seems like an programming obsessed person shouting something.
Your statement: "you doubtless agree that at least many people should learn to code."
My response: no.
Your statement: "My opinion is that even people who have no desire to program for a living should learn the basics, just so that they understand the world around them better and expand their mental horizons"
My response: That is your opinion. No one cares. And who told you programming can lead to expansion of mental horizon?
Don't loose this one: " I have created an outline, or syllabus, for a programming course targeting those without any previous experience in or specific knowledge of programming. I have in mind a one-year course, presented to either grade school or high school students, but this course could actually be adapted for people in general, not necessarily just those in school."
Not true at all. Your "syllabus" is ridiculous. It tells about real World aspects after you have learnt technical aspect. Also, there are so many technologies in this World that one just cannot come up with Unified theory(yes, pun intended).
I do not disagree with few things there but I certainly do not agree to it in its entirety.
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My counter-responses:
I am not obsessed with programming.
Perhaps your definition of the word "many" differs from mine.
As to programming expanding your mental horizons, it's commonly accepted. Do some research.
I think you meant "lose" (the opposite of gain, or win) not "loose" which is the opposite of "tight."
A major point of the syllabus is that there are myriad ever-changing technologies, but that there are certain basics/constants that are necessary.
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B. Clay Shannon wrote: Perhaps your definition of the word "many" differs from mine.
Any article that uses the word many to describe proportion of acceptance or rejection of certain notion is of course doomed. Never use many if you are trying to impose a presumably generalized opinion.
B. Clay Shannon wrote: As to programming expanding your mental horizons, it's commonly accepted. Do some research.
No it does not. Define mental horizon.
B. Clay Shannon wrote: I think you meant "lose" (the opposite of gain, or win) not "loose" which is the opposite of "tight."
Are you gonna talk about or grammar and language or content? (Hey loo, gonna is not even a word and this thing which I typed is wrong)
B. Clay Shannon wrote: A major point of the syllabus is that there are myriad ever-changing technologies, but that there are certain basics/constants that are necessary.
No. Nothing is necessary. Nothing is mandatory. The whole presumption is wrong. If you were to talk about extreme basics of programming regardless of technology, only thing you are left with is Maths. Yes one can debate a lot on this but everything in the end would lead to Maths.
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