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What a strange response. Why would I want to write a book on Artificial Intelligence? Clearly, my specialty is studying humans (though I can write a mean TPL MVC system). You point to the announcement that I had read earlier today, that a machine had passed the Turing test, but then say "Quote: Such a system however is not the same as a system capable of cold calling for sales. " I am impressed by your self confidence, but I am not as convinced. I did not give the machine much of a test, Neither you nor I have any idea of its capability except that it produced flawless diction with an attractive voice and could detect a question asking if it was a person. That is all. ... And remember grassjumper, someone who is not looking is very unlikely to find. Numerous studies also demonstrate that.
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Michael Breeden wrote: Why would I want to write a book on Artificial Intelligence?
Thought I already pointed this out - so you would know what the current state of technology is in terms of that. And if it isn't clear the ability for a machine to be able to sales calls falls under the science domain of artificial intelligence.
Michael Breeden wrote: I did not give the machine much of a test, Neither you nor I have any idea of its capability except that it produced flawless diction with an attractive voice and could detect a question asking if it was a person.
Utter nonsense. You assumed it was a machine and then are drawing conclusions from that.
What I am telling you is that the technology does NOT exist. It doesn't exist using super computers and it most certainly does not exist for standard businesses to use. So it is pointless to discuss how one might differentiate if it was a machine because it was impossible for it to be a machine in the first place.
Michael Breeden wrote: And remember grassjumper, someone who is not looking is very unlikely to find. Numerous studies also demonstrate that.
Presumably you must think that aliens or secret government projects have reached a vast technological limit of AI intelligence and voice recognition and have chosen to share that technology with some random sales company?
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So I guess that means that you won't be jumping into AI anytime soon.
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Ultimate Wishlist of the Day:
When you block a sender, the server sends them an email that they've been blocked and they actually remove you from their mailing list.
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Bad idea.
The server sending them a message tells them yours is a valid email address that is monitored and read: or "prime target" as it is also known.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Yeah, it would give them the message that it is a valid email, unless one crafts the response as undelivered/unknown recipient error; or something like that to throw them off
"I've seen more information on a frickin' sticky note!" - Dave Kreskowiak
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Would it throw you off?
'Cause I'm pretty sure I'd see through it...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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All depends on how smart they are
"I've seen more information on a frickin' sticky note!" - Dave Kreskowiak
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True. But if this server tells that server that they're being blocked, then you would think that they'd realize it's wasted effort to keep sending. Maybe the entire server needs to be blocked. Like I said, wishful thinking.
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Ah, but it isn't!
The block will be (normally) from a specific email address or domain - and it's trivial to set up new ones. And all they need is for you to respond to one of them. It's not as is spambots cost anything much to run!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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But I don't want to be the one who responds to them. I want the server to realize I've blocked this guy and not send them to me to go to my junk folder.
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So... whose server? Not theirs, because there is no way they will let their own server ban them from sending cr@p.
Which means it has to be yours - so they still know there is an active email on the other end
It's like images in emails - most email apps don't show them by default any more, because it means reading the image from the originator site, and that means they know the email has been read!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: Which means it has to be yours - so they still know there is an active email on the other end
True. However, I do not need to see all those junk mails going into my junk folder. I'd rather they not come to me at all and stop at my server level.
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I'm afraid the only solution is a cattle prod and a big hammer.
Find where they live, and use the cattle prod to persuade them to stop. Then use the big hammer on their computers.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: When you block a sender, the server
... signs the sender up for a kabillion "newsletters".
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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True. But if this server tells that server that they're being blocked, then you would think that they'd realize it's wasted effort to keep sending. Maybe the entire server needs to be blocked. Like I said, wishful thinking.
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"Wasted effort" is actually the good thing here. As far as spam (AKA really good newsletter that you don't quite remember you signed into ) goes, the more resources they waste on unread messages, the better for rest of us
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"My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote: When you block a sender, the server sends them an email that they've been
blocked and they actually remove you from their mailing list. Companies won't like it, and neither do I.
Send a mail to "everyone@company.com", "sales@company.com", "admin@company.com" and "f***er@company.com", explaining that spam is a offense, and that you are the cure.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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My local Kerala association (Indian state of my origin) is doing a fusion music event this month featuring a mix of western and Indian instruments and songs. I made these two promo videos for the event. Looking forward to some feedback. Feel free to lie through your teeth if you think it's bad because I am only looking to hear opinions that suggest that I'd have been a great video editor had I not been such a great programmer. You can also tell me how you tell your kids that they need to be modest like Uncle Nish.
Trailer 1 (YouTube)[^]
Trailer 2 (YouTube)[^]
I am going to order Pizza now, this time I need to make sure I call the right place.
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I must admit being a bit fascinated by the Sitar (far too many strings, I'm a Bass player!), little known fact Jimmy Page (of Led Zeppelin fame) had on before George Harrison (The Beatles) and had to get Ravi Sanclar to show him how to tune it. Anorak question is the Sitar the same scale/tuning as Western music....
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glennPattonWork wrote: is the Sitar the same scale/tuning as Western music
Ah. Well. No.[^]
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Ah the answer to all life's little questions Wiki...
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If only there was a tool that allowed you to search the internet and find relevant information....
I could make a fortune selling access to it to QA posters!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I'm quite sure some would still prefer answers that removed the need for think!
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