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Well, I await to hear your further adventures. I've been having fun getting the onboard UART to communicate to an MEI bill acceptor, which uses mark/space parity to distinguish between commands, data, and final checksum byte. And of course, only odd/even parity is supported by Debian even though the hardware supports mark/space. Oh, that was painful, but success was achieved!
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: It's on my list to try next.
Please don't. It will spare you from several strokes and will allow you to have a longer life.
If you're interested in cross compiling, just use MonoDevelop. Honestly
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson
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Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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beaten to a wind comment
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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I had (and still have).
THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?!
-- C++ FQA Lite
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_Maxxx_ wrote: Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!
Yeah. Using Eclipse is a painful experience. Even tabbing between documents. I didn't appreciate how nice it is that VS puts my "last visited" tab into the "tab back to this tab" slot, so I can easily bounce between two tabs. I have no idea what that feature is called or even how to describe it well, but I sure miss it in Eclipse.
And then there's the whole "you have to save the file before it compiles the latest changes" BS. Why can't it auto-save first? There's probably a configuration option.
The thing that I find most amusing (and annoying) is that the most useful command "build project" has no hotkey!!!
Marc
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I wanted to test my Android article - so tried to remove Eclipse and start again.
I was so tempted to just leave it uninstalled and forget the article!
Still, my readers need me I want to win a prize.
FTFM
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I've have no idea what eclipse would call it (not invented here most likely); but tab Z order sounds right for any rational software stack.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Yeah I really don't understand who uses it. Maybe people who have people dedicated to eclipse configuration. But it's just to cumbersome for it's own good.
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On the plus side:
Eclipse allows you to browse backwards and forwards between code files more easily than VS.
It also auto-compiles when you save.
Customising perspectives is something that VS doesn't really do well.
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It does rather put you off Android development, doesn't it?
We are spoiled, it seems...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I think it seems to be one of those projects that's got too big for its boots.
I think the new google IDE might be better - but it means you have to write in Java !
Rock and Hard Place
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I dumped eclipse and switched to the new Android Studio. Far more productive even as a beta product.
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But unfortunately for Java and not C++ 
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_Maxxx_ wrote: Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!
And notepad as well.
THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?!
-- C++ FQA Lite
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Notepad++ is great for writing Java which can then be compiled using the command line.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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_Maxxx_ wrote: Wow - makes me appreciate VS2010 - and that's saying something!
 Great summary. That's been my exact experience.
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It is a rare beast is it not?
Especially the project configuration. It wouldn't be so bad, but it has to handle so many chip architecture!
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Eclipse? Are you being seduced by the dark side?
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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I'm not sure 'seduced' is the right word. more like 'gang-raped'
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If this is the first time you've used it, you should feel blessed that you've never had to use it before.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Eclipse does do a few things that VS doesn't do but it's still not worth the effort.
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Well, i does crash with different error messages, that's for sure!
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As much as I am anti MS at times (use the XAML editor in VS for 5 mins to see why), overall as an IDE, VS is a really nice product. I may have to use plug-ins to get the functionality some others provide out of the box, but overall it just feels "cleaner" than most IDEs.
Jeremy Falcon
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Yeah Eclipse is really bad, always has been and still seems to be judging by my run in with the Android developer toolkit which is based on it. Its concept of 'workspace' is just bizarre and confuses me.
I recommend IntelliJ's IDEA, I've used that in anger at work and it has a lot of really good stuff. It's where a lot of what is in Resharper comes from.
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