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Decision made according to the results of a survey.
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I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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walterhevedeich wrote: Since when did we start posting important things in the Lounge?
Good point.  Should it be marked as Abusive or SPAM? 
There's no room for important stuff in the Lounge. Use the VB forum instead.
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That forum is too sacred for important things.
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Thanks for the link, yeah it's important to many duds are getting through the cracks. And the sad part is the only up votes they're getting are from themselves using dummy accounts.
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How can we decide whether or not Chris is happy for his vote to be made public?
Shirley that's for him to know.
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Who is it that approves such articles[^] ? This is merely a tip. 
Again: if every two lines of something gats approved to be an article, then the whole quality of the site will sink dramatically.
I wish the list of approvers would be public (or at least visible to moderators), so that they would explain me how and why they approved.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Approving of articles is a permission that is earned according to CP points in various disciplines; check your own status to see where it applies. And I suspect that any list of approvers would be quite large.
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The question war half rhetorical, for I know how the approval system works. What I am bitching about is that I am under the impression that some "approvers" don't do their job correctly.
Richard MacCutchan wrote: any list of approvers would be quite large
I meant that I would like the approvers list for each article to be known, not the complete list of people with the privilege.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Sounds like something for sugs&bugs.
I would approve of such a list.
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Already suggested.[^].
Just trying to gather other people's opinion, because it is not the first time I have suggested it.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Rage wrote: that some "approvers" don't do their job correctly.
But that will always be the case. There are plenty of mediocre articles that get lots of +5 votes, probably because the author emails the link to all friends and colleagues. In fact you occasionally come across one and all the comments make it quite clear that this is happening. With a system as large as CP there will always be abuse.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: But that will always be the case
But this is no reason to not try and improve the way it goes.
Reputation points are like entropy, they don't fade, and this encourages the fact that more and more people will be potential moderators, and the game goes on. If any, I am the best example of people who should normally not be allowed to moderate articles, but my rep points allow me to.
So I think:
- Rep points should fade.
- Requested rep points amount for privileges like article moderation should be set much higher.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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I don't think Rep points should fade. But I do agree with your second point.
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Look at the moderator's forum - when I'm not too lazy I find them in knots...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Yes, I know, but they still get approved.
And I don't think the moderator forum has high traffic or interest in. My two cents.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Indeed, and that's why I second this[^] suggestion of yours. Once we have a dedicated page for approving the articles, all relevant details (like number of votes, list of approvers and so on..) can be made available over there.
Whether I think I can, or think I can't, I am always bloody right!
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 I did not see that. I take it back, I am glad it helped someone.
Now seriously, several of his articles are 5-voted by profiles with just a few days/messages existence... Suspicious at the least...
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Unduly harsh. I had no idea how to create a reflection in Blend, I sort of do now.
And since when did approvers have to explain their action to you?
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Rob Philpott wrote: to you
He meant community i think 
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Would it not have been so if this was correctly categorized as tip ? And the fact that you "sort of" know says all about quality.
Rob Philpott wrote: And since when did approvers have to explain their action to you?
Not to me in particular, but to everybody. For the sake of transparency.
Also because I want to be able to ask them what makes them think where the standards for "article" were met in this tip. Maybe I am all wrong and this document mets the criteria for an article, but then I want to understand why, so I can improve my moderation skills for the next.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Rage wrote: Would it not have been so if this was correctly categorized as tip ?
Yes, it probably would. Does it matter? It's a bit of writing about something, tip, article - who cares?
What I see this as is a suggestion to moderate the moderators. I don't think I've ever approved anything (maybe once and I found something of a chore) so the icing on the cake would be somebody challenging it.
The bloke has written something which is short but has merit. I think it should appear.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Rob Philpott wrote: Does it matter ? It's a bit of writing about something, tip, article - who cares?
If we go that way, why having moderation at all ? Why is the differentiation made between article and tip ?
So yes, it does matter. If not, then we don't need moderation and different article/blog/tip types. We could just be the 4chan of programming and let anyone just dump three screenshots and
Rob Philpott wrote: What I see this as is a suggestion to moderate the moderators
Exactly.
Rob Philpott wrote: don't think I've ever approved anything
Nobody asks you to if you don't want it, but if you do, then do it correctly.
Rob Philpott wrote: I think it should appear
And I don't think it should be placed on the same level as a quality article that took several weeks to write, required research and a lot of code to fine tune, even if it comes handy. This is all about quality. Allowing anybody to write anything is calling for everybody to write anything. That's my point.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Rage wrote: list of approvers would be public (or at least visible to moderators), so that they would explain me how and why they approved
And? What will you do with that list?
The functionality you suggested is good but will be of no use without any action. Solution can be
1) You flagged the item as Wrong Type
2) Popup comes asking the type. Enter the type you think it should be and proceed.
3) Thats it.
After certain number of such votes(Wrong type. It should be Tip),change its type. This is similar to what we have in place right now for approval.
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad
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Rohan Leuva wrote: to what we have in place right now for approval.
you meant for abuse or spam.
Yes, good suggestion.
And I want transparency to be able to debate about article "must" contents. Otherwise, I can go farming reputation points like I suspect some do and blindly approve of everything.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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