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Corinna John12-Sep-14 4:42

Corinna John

12-Sep-14 4:42

Oracle's drivers and file system structure suck and I'd also love something like Management Studio for Oracle.
Dead | X|

But as the database is designed for other billion dollar companies, the command line tools are just fine. Admins can run them in scripts, in scheduled jobs at night ... instead of clicking through them again and again for ever virtual machine they have to install.

This statement is false.

Rage12-Sep-14 4:48

12-Sep-14 4:48

Corinna ? This must have been ages !! What brings you around here ? Lost something in a picture and looking for it Poke tongue | ;-P

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.

MehGerbil12-Sep-14 5:07

12-Sep-14 5:07

I don't know why both cannot be done well.

Wendelius12-Sep-14 6:32

Wendelius

12-Sep-14 6:32

Corinna John wrote:
I'd also love something like Management Studio for Oracle

Why not use TOAD or SQL Developer? Smile | :)

Roger Wright12-Sep-14 11:15

Roger Wright

12-Sep-14 11:15

Long time, no see, Corinna - Welcome! Big Grin | :-D

Yep, a gazillion years ago Oracle sent me a free copy of Oracle 8 - I tried it for a few days and uninstalled it. Not even worth trying to master that junk. Dead | X|

Will Rogers never met me.

DaveX8612-Sep-14 15:11

DaveX86

12-Sep-14 15:11

You could try dbForge Studio for Oracle[^]...I use the one for MySQL and prefer it over MySQL Workbench.

Rage12-Sep-14 4:43

12-Sep-14 4:43

MehGerbil wrote:
How is this a billion dollar company?

By not investing thousands of dollars in developing a Fisher Price UI that everybody will anyway criticize and by relying on solid good'ol' command line ?

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.

MehGerbil12-Sep-14 5:05

12-Sep-14 5:05

I suppose you still use DOS to navigate to files on your PC?
Because if you're using Windows Explorer then that is 'Fisher Price' and much too easy for a serious professional to use.

Rage12-Sep-14 5:08

12-Sep-14 5:08

I use TotalCommander Cool | :cool:

Given, this is not DOS, but the design did not evolve since Win98.

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.

MehGerbil12-Sep-14 5:10

12-Sep-14 5:10

Good Heavens!
I'm going to have to begrudgingly give you a +5.

PIEBALDconsult12-Sep-14 6:07

12-Sep-14 6:07

MehGerbil wrote:
I suppose you still use DOS to navigate to files on your PC?

Often, but it depends on the task at hand.

"Use the right tool for the right job." -- Scotty

dandy7212-Sep-14 6:13

dandy72

12-Sep-14 6:13

If I haven't opened a command prompt window at least once on any given workday, I probably haven't accomplished much that day.

PIEBALDconsult12-Sep-14 6:19

12-Sep-14 6:19

I always have at least one open, often more than one.

Slacker00712-Sep-14 9:14

Slacker007

12-Sep-14 9:14

I write all my code in notepad. I haven't touched a modern IDE in ages. $Shucks | :-\$

PIEBALDconsult12-Sep-14 4:47

12-Sep-14 4:47

Stick with what works. The Command line works, always has always will. What I can't stand is the ridiculous Webbish interface they created that doesn't work.

MehGerbil12-Sep-14 5:02

12-Sep-14 5:02

That is what I'm complaining about - the UI I'm trying to use is clunky and doesn't work.
They're doing a terrible job of modernizing, IMHO.
Why not just use DIP switches instead of the modern command line?

modified 12-Sep-14 11:11am.

Rage12-Sep-14 5:09

12-Sep-14 5:09

Dip switch is old technology. Use the punch cards instead.

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.

MehGerbil12-Sep-14 5:12

12-Sep-14 5:12

We could use clay jars with rocks inside of them.
Or we could use this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkkyKZVzug[^]

Rage12-Sep-14 5:19

12-Sep-14 5:19

Some people have too much time on their hands.

~RaGE();

I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.

MehGerbil12-Sep-14 7:04

12-Sep-14 7:04

Rage wrote:
Some people have too much time on their hands.

They have all that time because they use a modern UI to get their work done during the day.
Big Grin | :-D

Eddy Vluggen12-Sep-14 8:03

Eddy Vluggen

12-Sep-14 8:03

The command line is not outdated technology. In fact, it is still vastly superior to the point and click interface. See the immediate window in the VS-IDE, see Powershell, see Telnet. A trained user is also an order of magnitude faster typing the switches than someone navigating all kinds of Windows with expensive (and buggy!) controls.

The only machine that does not come with a command-line is called a "games console".

Bastard Programmer from Hell Suspicious | :suss:

If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

PIEBALDconsult12-Sep-14 8:58

12-Sep-14 8:58

Eddy Vluggen wrote:
The only machine that does not come with a command-line is called a "games console".

Or a Mac -- but even they have a command line now don't they? I stil lhaven't seen one on my Droid yet either.

Jörgen Andersson12-Sep-14 9:07

Jörgen Andersson

12-Sep-14 9:07

It's not installed, so you have to do that yourself[^].

Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello[^]

Eddy Vluggen12-Sep-14 10:21

Eddy Vluggen

12-Sep-14 10:21

PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Or a Mac

I prefer real meat.

Bastard Programmer from Hell Suspicious | :suss:

If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]