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Jochen Arndt wrote: Generally all desktop distributions provide an easy update mechanism that works without requiring any command line inputs.
Some updates do, yes, very much the same as Windows Update. However, Java does not seem to be in that list.
Also, whenever I have gone to download something there are always directions on how to install/update on Linux and it always has command line options.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Before downloading an archive for installation you should check if the software is listed in the distribution's repository. Then it will be installed and updated by the graphical package management.
You are right for Java. That requires a single 'apt-get' command line execution.
Most distributions did not contain non open source packages by default. These may be hold in special packages or must be installed manually.
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Thanks.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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It is mostly a matter of the repositories you have in your list...If you list there a repository for Java, Java will be updated automatically...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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In general, Mint Linux[^] is the easiest Linux distro I've had installed on any of my machines. It is basically customized Ubuntu - contains some proprietary drivers out of the box and therefore is easier to set up.
But frankly, I don't understand what is so scary about command line - we are all software professionals here and deal with much more complicated concepts. In fact, I use command window on Windows all the time - some tasks are just easier with cmd.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: In general, Mint Linux[^] is the easiest Linux distro I've had installed on any of my machines
Thanks.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: I don't understand what is so scary about command line
Nothing at all. However, when I need to update Java or something else, I don't want to have to lookup command lines just to be able to do it. I want to get to my task and not spending time looking up stuff that should be so simple this many years into it.
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I would recommend Linux Mint[^]. I had this one installed exclusively (no windows) on my home PC for 2 year about 5 years ago. It's based on Ubuntu so lots of packages and nice tools to install & update. I see it has become the most popular distro on distrowatch.com[^] since then. Definitely worth a look.
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Great. Thank you. 
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RyanDev wrote: Easy to use Linux
That's an oxymoronic statement if I ever saw or heard one.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: That's an oxymoronic statement if I ever saw or heard one.
Great. Not what I wanted to hear. 
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 glad to help. 
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote: glad to help.
Ya, it's a nasty habit you have. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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My little part of the world (Long Island, NY) is expecting 20"-30" (30cm - 45cm) snow in the next 36 hours. Winds, 40+mpg, gusts to 60mph (roughly, >65km/h, 100km/h, respectively)
Assuredly, I'll be snowed indoors on Tuesday and it'll be pointless to start digging out until Wednesday. Then there's digging out.
So screwed. So very very screwed. If the electricity should fail, being screwed will be the best part of it.
Once again, I remember why I regret not being born rich.
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Eng->Metric corrected: 50cm - 75cm is more like it, before drifting
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modified 26-Jan-15 7:23am.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: 30cm - 45cm) snow in the next 36 hours
W∴ Balboos wrote: I'll be snowed indoors on Tuesday and it'll be pointless to start digging out until Wednesday
Be glad you live in a country where this is a catastrophe 
Here you would be expected to get to work in time 
Edit: This message still apllies for 50cm-76cm of snow :P
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modified 26-Jan-15 7:17am.
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HobbyProggy wrote: Here you would be expected to get to work in time
I suppose that it cuts down on the number of pensioners (survivors) - so it makes sense. My conversions to metric were corrected: 51cm - 76cm.
Actually, I lived in Chicago for 5 years (metric: 5 years) - including the infamous "Blizzard of '79". Such things, however, are never spoken of aloud. http://www.chicago-l.org/mishaps/blizzard79.html[^]
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I know i know, saw that they were corrected, still applies 
Well that blizzard looks rough, but nothing we hadn't have here in the black forest.
I remember days, weeks of driving through streets where snow has been piled up to walls of 2 m hight.
But, yeah, we are used to it since ... ever?
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You mean he won't? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I didn't mean that, he wrote he'll expect to doig out at wednesday, so i assume working on tuesday is not an option?
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You'll find that 20 to 30 inches isn't 30 to 45 cms! It's 51 to 76cms. So you're even more screwed!!
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Ahh - yes - shows the state of mind I plan on being in.
I was thinking in terms of 12" = 30cm and as though it would b 1 - 1 1/2 feet of Satan's Cream Cheese.
My values won't even bring me to tomorrow's lunch.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Whatever happens I doubt you top the snowfall[^] in the Norwegian mountains. Although we didn't have a storm to fallow the snowfall.
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No matter how beautiful it may look, my mind returns to the pragmatic:
Since I think people who winter in places like Canada (and Wisconsin) are qutie out of there minds, you could imagine what I'd say about the Norwegian mountain dwellers.
The only proper way to spend a winter^
Any questions?
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