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For the sake of this discussion assume that space travel and space habitats have advanced quite a bit further than they actually have to date and that mankind has had a small-ish (100 - 200 inhabitants) colony on Mars for the last 10 years. Things are not perfectly safe and the life is not easy but babies are being born there with all the right number of appendages / organs and the colony is almost completely self sustaining. There is a planned expansion to boost the colony's population to 5000+ in the next couple years.
1. Are you interested? Why or why not?
2. How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?
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1. Nah, no CP on Mars 
2. Decades, still decades 
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1, no, I have meetings next week
2, decades (unless they find oil(substitute material in demand here) then weeks)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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1. Only if I can keep going back and forth from Mars to Earth for visits.
2. Not sure. The technological breakthroughs we've had initially was a huge leap from almost nothing. Things have stagnated for a long time in terms of transportation (i.e., cars, planes, trains, boats). Once that initial hurdle is over, things will expand quickly until it stagnates again. I'd say at least another 50 years.
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You are going to have a lot of s3x in order to get from 200 to 5,000, in 2 year's time. Just saying.
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This is just impossibruuuuu 
1 guy 199 ladys -> 199 babies per 9 months \ 2 years => 529,34 babies
Hell, they gonna need a lot o milk! 
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HobbyProggy wrote: Hell, they gonna need a lot o milk
199 Ladies. What's the problem?
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Slacker007 wrote: You are going to have a lot of s3x in order to get from 200 to 5,000, in 2 year's time.
Get your mind out of the gutter... they're sending 5000 new people up in ships over 2 years. The question is: Do you want to be one of those 5000?
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Get your mind out of the gutter
That, is just impossibruuuuu!!
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Not interested, but not entirely sure why. I would just rather stay here on earth.
I think it will happen in my lifetime.
They[^] go to mars
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1: Yes, but as said before, it'll be so long before Mars will be open to ordinary folk that my grandchildren's grandchildren may get a shot.
2: Once they get there and establish a small colony; a proof of concept, so to speak the next stages will start to happen more rapidly as the need for new technologies pushes innovation and discovery forward. Probably at least 100 years.
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1. I'm too old for the pioneering life, but if my grandchildren wanted to join - I certainly wouldn't stand in their way.
2. The answer to (1) implies that I think that it will be at least 30-40 years from today before the Mars colony is ready for such expansion. Don't forget that the colonists won't be the "poor, huddled masses yearning to be free", but highly-skilled engineers, scientists etc. I suspect that couples in which one of the partners does not fit an "essential skills" slot will be rejected out-of-hand.
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Do not start what I think you are trying to start. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: Do not start what I think you are trying to start.
No idea what you're referring to.
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Right. 
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Honestly, I have no clue what you mean.
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What do you mean? 
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Curse you.
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How much yodelling[^] will be involved?
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Everything we see, hear, feel, and do is either an integral part of or highly influenced by the lump of assorted rocks we live on.
Even the gravity of the Earth and the Moon affect the way we think, by introducing stresses that are countered in our bodies by hormones -- so the effects of the environment we interact with more brutally are naturally more brutal.
Do I want to know what changes standing on another planet will make to me, both physically and psychologically?
You're joking, right?
Where do I sign? Just give me the piece of paper to sign. I can be ready to leave in, oh, about three seconds.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Yeah, that is my opinion as well.
I'm too old and decrepit (heavy on the decrepit) to be considered even if it were a reality today, but I'd be willing in a heartbeat.
As for the eventuality... I suspect we're still a century or more away.
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Mars doesn't have an ozone layer, as a matter of fact it doesn't have an atmosphere to begin with, it also doesn't have a magnetic field, which means all the high energy radiation from the sun will kill any organic life very quickly.
The only chance they would have is to live deep underground in some caves. So technically it would not be on Mars, but underground Mars.
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Kamen Nik wrote: as a matter of fact it doesn't have an atmosphere to begin with
Oh, really[^]? 
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"The atmospheric pressure on the Martian surface averages 600 pascals (0.087 psi), about 0.6% of Earth's mean sea level pressure"
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Exactly my point: "it has a very thin atmosphere" is not the same thing as "it doesn't have an atmosphere".
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