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Last time I purchased a server from Dell it took two days of back and forth trying to figure out exactly what license I needed. It finally ended up as a 3 way call with Dell and MS on the phone for an hour or so. I still ended up with the wrong thing. I could not even use the server because the licensing was incompatible with another MS server already on the network.
You were only allowed to have one of this particular type of server on a network.
I definitely prefer Linux. It has as steep learning curve but it's so much easier once you figure it out. Our dev server now runs on Linux. It takes about 3-5 hours to install from scratch but it takes less than an hour of my time. I have the distro on USB memory stick. It takes me about 5 minutes to start the installer. I come back an hour or so later and run update (a single update I might add, not update after update after update.) I come back in an hour or so and run a simple script that installs all of our software.
I come back in another hour and unzip the latest server backup, copy a copy of config files, reboot the server and everything is running.
I really don't understand why anyone would use MS server unless they just had some money burning a whole in their pocket.
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"licensing drones"
Conjures up all sorts of evil images, like the flying monkeys in The Wizard of Oz.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: Thanks for any pointers
Is it a money problem - then "IT" probably isn't the place to solve it.
Is is a management problem - then "IT" won't solve it.
But if it is just a license problem and the customer shop isn't small? Then have them buy a new PC with Windows 7 and buy Win 8 (or 10?) after market. Then you use the Windows 7 in the VM and IT puts the after market on the hardware.
Or perhaps you could just use Azure (does that allow Windows 7?)
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Well, for some reason I have gone anal retentive on this situation. It just seems STUPID to have to strap another piece of hardware into the rack room. Worse, when they do maintenance, they'll forget to boot it (I know these things). For the record, the local IT group is a pretty good set of people, but they've been beaten down by the corporation.
I just have to make sure I seem to be attempting to follow the rules.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: It just seems STUPID to have to strap another piece of hardware into the rack room.
That wasn't what I was suggesting.
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything at all... more ranting at the sky 
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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You also need to kill the programmers family and friends because they distract him from what life is really all about: work!
That's what they teach you at the management fast-track course anyway 
My blog[ ^]
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Silly question aside, that first answer is actually pretty good.
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I have not worked ANYWHERE that required me, or asked me, to work 60-80 hour weeks. That is ludicrous.
However, I have had to work 60+ hour weeks, but again, that was not required, or SOP.
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Oh, look, it's 15:00, time to go home.
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No, 15:00 is the time to arrive at work. 16:00 is the time to go home! 
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"We get up at 12 and start to work at 1 ... take an hour for lunch at then at 2 we're done, jolly good fun. Ah, ah, ah, oh, oh, oh ... another jolly good day in the land of Oz!"
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The asker (likely a manager) needs his head examined. And possibly a talk with HR (ending with his firing, most likely)
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
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Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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"First, basic, level of motivation is money"
Bollocks.
Besides, all you need to do to get infinite overtime is remind the guys that "life" is only a foolish anagram of "file", and that no one file is more important than your project to make an app to demonstrate how to download and install VLC.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Not entirely!
The cited article said something to the effect that you needed to supply enough money to put bread (and a few cakes!) on the table before you did anything else. A programmer who is wondering where his next meal is coming from (literally or figuratively) is not going to do his/her best work. More pay doesn't magically produce better code, but adequate pay (as defined by the recipient) is a necessary starting point.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Bollocks.
Certainly a motivator for many people. Of course one must actually define what "money" means in that context.
For example HR standing in front a room full of developers telling them that the 'total' benefits package is 5% above the industry average is "bollocks".
If however you tell them that if they meet the 3 month delivery limit and they will each get a check for $10,000 then you might see a bit more interest.
Or if you hire them at a rate that is 25% above their next best offer, and do salary increases every year with a above 10% match from any counter offer they receive then you might see a bit more interest as well.
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I love the opening of the second answer:
SQuote: erious answer: 80 hours? Seriously? Basically, that's 12 hours per day for 7 days.
Seriously? 7 x 12 = 80? The poster has evidently been working 80+ hours a week and their brain is tired! (or is that Tyred in the US of A?)
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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You're up the coast somewhere(*) aren't you ? everything ok with TC Marcia ?
(*) I thought QLD/Brisbane
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Yep I'm in the N Sunshine Coast - where we had more than 130mm rain in 12 hours overnight (my rain gauge only measures 120mm officially but it had overflowed the top)
It's reasonably quiet at present - some flooding, few roads closed, but we're waiting for it to come closer this evening/overnight.
spent yesterday evening securing things (I wonder if the winds will be strong enough to move The Boy's three skate ramps? -that could be messy!)
His school and Mrs. Maxxx work are closed today due to flooding, Im working from home due to not being willing to get stuck and not be able to get home again.
I have beer, the power is still on but in any case my mobile devices are charged up - so really just hoping for no major damage overnight tonight.
I tweeted this photo[^] of the destructive nature of the winds here, earlier on.
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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Cheers! She'll be right!
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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I think thats correct: 7 x 12 = 84 - 4 (hours of lunch time for 7 days) 
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80 hour work week is possible, when you consider the occasional 34 hour workday. (Been there, done that.) I had a contract supplying data center operations management when a critical disk drive failed right before the month end closing reports. Eleven hours service time (two failures [missing set screw]), seven hours recovery, sixteen hours processing time with two of three operators on leave. (Yours truly filling in.)
The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.
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Wile totally fascinating, my point was in the mathematical error, not in the possibility of an 80 hour working week.
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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