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Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 11:37

9-Apr-15 11:37

Karel Čapek wrote:
Unwatchable:you need to trust that the presenter's of show like that are a) going to take the piss at every available opportunity, b) be politically incorrect, c) be able to drive and d) know one end of a car from the other

There's a kind of morbid curiousity in watching someone make grand, blase statements when he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

For a) and b), Perkins pisses all over that thick-headed, egoistic moron who got fired from the show.

For c) and d), I don't have the foggiest, but I do know that they're a lot less important than a) and b).

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R. Giskard Reventlov9-Apr-15 11:45

9-Apr-15 11:45

Mark_Wallace wrote:
For a) and b), Perkins pisses all over that thick-headed, egoistic moron who got fired from the show.

In your humble opinion.

Mark_Wallace wrote:
For c) and d), I don't have the foggiest,

Then you have nothing to say.

Mark_Wallace wrote:
they're a lot less important than a) and b).

True, but, nonetheless, important: Clarkson was, first and foremost, a motoring journalist so at least has some inkling. He may make crap cakes but he knows cars. She just knows crap cakes.

Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 11:31

9-Apr-15 11:31

Sue Perkins is bluddy brilliant.

It'll be good to see such a show with such a genuinely talented person at the helm.

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R. Giskard Reventlov9-Apr-15 11:34

9-Apr-15 11:34

Mark_Wallace wrote:
Sue Perkins is bluddy brilliant at baking cakes.

FTFY: she is shite at driving/fixing/talking about cars. She has no gravitas: what ever sort of dick Clarkson is, he carried it off. She won't. Kylie Minogue would be better: at least she played a mechanic...

Mark_Wallace wrote:
It'll be good to see such a show with such a genuinely talented person at the helm.

Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 11:39

9-Apr-15 11:39

You just keep on talking about what you don't know about.

I'll really enjoy watching you eat your words, later.

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R. Giskard Reventlov9-Apr-15 11:46

9-Apr-15 11:46

Thing is, I do know about cars. You've already admitted you know nothing so why are you still talking?

Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 11:59

9-Apr-15 11:59

Karel Čapek wrote:
You've already admitted you know nothing

Beg pardon?

I have completely dismantled, repaired, and reassembled three engines. I've done all manner of bodywork, and have even built a bench to straighten a monocoque frame.

I have never paid anyone to either adjust or repair any car I have ever owned -- and I've owned a lot of cars.

Where, exactly, did I say that I don't know what I'm talking about, when it comes to cars?

You, on the other hand, have admitted that you know bugger all about Sue Perkins, and your follow-up statements have proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt, because anyone who knows her would not even dream of talking of her the way you have.

And let's carry on with this "who knows what" cr@p, shall we?

I'm pretty sure that you're aware that you are currently talking to someone who is extremely proficient at "taking the piss at every available opportunity" and "being politically incorrect".

If someone like that says that he respects the talents of someone else in those very areas, then maybe you ought to listen, and learn something about someone whom you have admitted that you know nothing about.

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R. Giskard Reventlov9-Apr-15 14:33

9-Apr-15 14:33

Mark_Wallace wrote:
Where, exactly, did I say that I don't know what I'm talking about, when it comes to cars?

If you think it costs a lot to hire a professional, wait till you hire an amateur. How many times I heard "I thought I'd do it myself...".

Mark_Wallace wrote:
If someone like that says that he respects the talents of someone else in those very areas, then maybe you ought to listen, and learn something about someone whom you have admitted that you know nothing about.

I do know her work as I said in another thread.

Mark_Wallace wrote:
If someone like that says that he respects the talents of someone else in those very areas, then maybe you ought to listen, and learn something about someone whom you have admitted that you know nothing about.

You need to climb back out of your own arse; the air up there is addling your brain.

Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 21:39

9-Apr-15 21:39

Karel Čapek wrote:
If you think it costs a lot to hire a professional, wait till you hire an amateur. How many times I heard "I thought I'd do it myself...".

WTF are you talking about?

Killfile it is, then.

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R. Giskard Reventlov10-Apr-15 4:10

10-Apr-15 4:10

Mark_Wallace wrote:
WTF are you talking about?

You. Ooh, look what I did. I tore down an engine. Ooh.

Mark_Wallace wrote:
Killfile it is, then.

Let me know when you are in my part of the world: love to see your 'killfile' I imagine it looks like: killfile[^]

Mycroft Holmes9-Apr-15 14:37

Mycroft Holmes

9-Apr-15 14:37

Mark_Wallace wrote:
Where, exactly, did I say that I don't know what I'm talking about, when it comes to cars?

Pretty sure he got you mixed up with Maximillian

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 21:32

9-Apr-15 21:32

Ruddy Internet mosquitos!

Making up stuff that I didn't say, and then telling me that I'm not allowed to talk.

Where's the bluddy fly-swat?

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Maximilien10-Apr-15 2:50

Maximilien

10-Apr-15 2:50

Mycroft Holmes wrote:
Maximillian

I assume you are talking about me.

I don't really care about cars (except if it is a DB5).

I know nothing about car mechanics. (well, I know some of the principles, but I would never dare "work" on a car, except to change a flat tire).

I'd rather be phishing!

Mycroft Holmes10-Apr-15 3:29

Mycroft Holmes

10-Apr-15 3:29

I quit looking after motors when they took out the carburetor

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 11:42

9-Apr-15 11:42

Karel Čapek wrote:
Mark_Wallace wrote:
Sue Perkins is bluddy brilliant at baking cakes.

I said nothing of the kind.

Do not misquote me. Make it clear where my words end and your foolish additions begin.

And AFAIK, Perkins can't cook.

In fact, forget that last. I know for a fact that she can't.

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R. Giskard Reventlov9-Apr-15 11:51

9-Apr-15 11:51

Mark_Wallace wrote:
Do not misquote me

Wow: had a humor bypass recently? No: I promise, you did.

Mark_Wallace wrote:
Make it clear where my words end and your foolish additions begin.

That's what the FTFY means and I wish your words would end.

Mark_Wallace wrote:
And AFAIK, Perkins can't cook.

Strike 2.

Mark_Wallace wrote:
In fact, forget that last. I know for a fact that she can't.

Listen, I'm sure she's bloody marvelous and I have seen her and she can be funny but she is not Top Gear material. Perhaps they can find her a more suitable show on Radio Norfolk.

What the BBC should do is get over themselves and rehire Clarkson.

Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 12:02

9-Apr-15 12:02

Karel Čapek wrote:
No: I promise, you did.

I will not tell you again: Do Not Misquote Me.

I would not show you such disrespect, so don't you do it to me.

As for the rest: you're talking out your @rse, and you'll regret it, later.

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Mladen Janković9-Apr-15 12:06

Mladen Janković

9-Apr-15 12:06

Mark_Wallace wrote:
As for the rest: you're talking out your @rse, and you'll regret it, later.

LOL! Sure!

R. Giskard Reventlov9-Apr-15 14:38

9-Apr-15 14:38

Mark_Wallace wrote:
I will not tell you again: Do Not Misquote Me.

Or what?

Mark_Wallace wrote:
I would not show you such disrespect, so don't you do it to me.

You have to earn respect.

Mark_Wallace wrote:
As for the rest: you're talking out your @rse, and you'll regret it, later.

Ooh: shaking in my boots. What are you? A ten year old?

Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 21:29

9-Apr-15 21:29

Karel Čapek wrote:
Or what?

Or you'll go in my killfile.

Karel Čapek wrote:
You have to earn respect.

That's the first argument that's always given children as an excuse for being disrespectful. What are you, five years old?

When modifying someone else's post, make it very clear where his words end and yours begin.

Show some respect -- you have to earn the right to be disrespectful.

Karel Čapek wrote:
Ooh: shaking in my boots. What are you? A ten year old?

You'll regret having talked like an uninformed idiot. When everyone else is enjoying the Hell out of the show, your words will come back to haunt you.

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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson9-Apr-15 21:39

9-Apr-15 21:39

May ask if you will admit to being an ill informed idiot if Sue Perkins fails on Top Gear?

or is it only those that disagree with you are ill informed idiots?

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 21:48

9-Apr-15 21:48

Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:
May ask if you will admit to being an ill informed idiot if Sue Perkins fails on Top Gear?

I don't see how my being an "ill-informed idiot" and her potential failure could in any way be connected.

Her success or failure are absolutely bugger all to do with me, or with any knowledge or information I possess.

Don't bother to try to explain, though. I've had enough of people telling me what I'm thinking, what I've said, and what I'm allowed to say.

I can't help but wonder how many people here have proudly declared "It'll always be Marathon to me!"

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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

Bergholt Stuttley Johnson9-Apr-15 21:54

9-Apr-15 21:54

So basically you have an opinion and if anyone disagrees then they are an ill informed idiot, you do seem to expect to tell others what to think yet get very shirty when it is applied to yourself

You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

Mark_Wallace9-Apr-15 22:06

9-Apr-15 22:06

If someone says "I don't know anything about [name], but she's crap", then I classify that person as an ill-informed idiot, yes.

I don't know a single person, in the entire world, who would not apply that classification, because the statement "I don't know anything about [name], but she's crap" is entirely synonymous with "I am an ill-informed idiot!"

I do not tell others what to think; I express my opinions, and I am unlikely to change my opinions just because someone else holds differing opinions. I will instead argue my corner unless convinced otherwise.

That's called discussion. It is the raison d'être of Internet forums. There are probably books that explain how to do it.

Saying things like "I don't know anything about [name], but she's crap" is not discussion; it is the behaviour of an ill-informed idiot.

Telling members of CP that they are not allowed to talk (and then, curiously, agreeing with the point made) is completely unacceptable behaviour, however -- and that's not just my opinion.

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