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Express is just a small framework to work with Node.js. It makes routing and adding middleware, exception handling and templating easy. Other popular alternatives are Hapi and Sails.
You know I'm no fan of JavaScript, but MEAN has my interest. It's like REALLY flexible across the entire stack.
And you're using just one language across your entire stack too. Sure, too bad that's JavaScript, but I don't even think it would be possible with any other language...
I can really recommend just spending a Saturday afternoon with MEAN for fun and giggles and see what the hype is about 
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Marc Clifton wrote: Angular - might look at it once Google finishes rewriting it.
Node.js - refuse to touch it. It's Javascript
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Vark111 wrote:
I am a very biased person when it comes to technology.
Marc
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I was just confused about the fact that you seem open to working with Angular (a Javascript-based framework) at some point, but you reject node.js because it's Javascript. Is it javscript on the server that bothers you, and you're fine with it on the client?
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Vark111 wrote: Is it javscript on the server that bothers you, and you're fine with it on the client?
Yes. Javascript on the client is a necessary evil I can't do anything about except perhaps use Dart or TypeScript.
Marc
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Gotcha. That I can understand. I was squeamish about js on the server myself until I started playing around w/ node.
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Node with Typescript is a huge amount of fun.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Node with Typescript is a huge amount of fun.
Well now, there's an idea. I just don't see writing something like a web server in a scripted language though. Sure, for a test jig, great, but do people really use Node for production servers?
Marc
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Err, yes. I've got a fairly large scale app running on Node with the business logic all written in TypeScript. It's less processor intensive than running it on an IIS rig so that was a big incentive for me.
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Interesting! Gah, I try to avoid IIS. I ended up writing my own web server that could sit under IIS, but there's no need to.
Marc
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I managed to reduce running costs to about 45% of the IIS costs, keeping a similar throughput. This is purely down to the fact we can run on a lower spec server running Linux.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: his is purely down to the fact we can run on a lower spec server running Linux.
That is still the #1 reason I can see for *nix development -- the VM costs seem considerably lower than running a Windows VM.
Marc
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LAMP: Linux... uhm, Apache, MySQL, and either/both/all of PHP/Perl/Python
I think.
TTFN - Kent
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Kent Sharkey wrote: I think.
Pretty good for not looking it up.
Wow, two stacks I will never use.
Marc
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You're totally a closet PHP programmer. Come on now, admit it!
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: You're totally a closet PHP programmer. Come on now, admit it!
Well ok, I confess. I wrote a few hundred lines of PHP. Actually enjoyed it.
Marc
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LAMP = Linux, Apache, MySQL + PHP.
Personally, I'd avoid any stack invoking PHP like the plague.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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It doesn't stop at MEAN though!
I've come across ANNE (Angular, Node.js, Neo4J, Express), BEANS (Bootstrap, Express, Angular, Node.js, Socket.io) and EARN (Express, Angular, Redis, Node.js) too!
Can't wait to see what they come up with next 
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Sander Rossel wrote: Can't wait to see what they come up with next
BONER: Bootstrap, OrientDB, Node.js, Express, React.js
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Bootstrap, Angular, Cassandra, OrientJS, Node.js. Yumm!
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Using the Orient driver with a Cassandra database? That doesn't even make any sense! 
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CoreOS and Docker, along with a group of industry leaders, are determined to create common standards for software containers through the Open Container Project (OCP). The OCP, housed under the Linux Foundation, is designed to provide a standard container format that will allow developers to develop container-based solutions without having to worry about a fragmented landscape. I can't CONTAIN my excitement 
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You're late, it's been reported... ECMAScript 6 is officially a standard[^] 
BTW, they should scrap that "programming language". It's still a scripting language... don't make yourself bigger than you are!
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