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It seems most of your dislikes are about aesthetics, which, you know, are very personal. I personally like how it looks very much.
Metro apps, I don't use them, so they don't bother me.
I don't use Windows Defender, so it doesn't bother me as well. I don't think anybody should use Windows Defender, it's very badly rated by security firms. Use Karspersky or BitDefender instead (both have free versions).
Cortana needs to collect your data to provide a better user experience, it needs to know you, to better serve you. I'm not really concerned with all that privacy paranoia. I don't really care, I'm not a criminal and have nothing to hide.
And all the rest are all about fine tuning the OS to your taste, like power plan, security level, etc. Which you do it anyways in any fresh OS setup. By the way, don't forget to turn off the setting that makes your PC a P2P server for windows update. It's on by default and if you don't, you will be serving windows updates to the world, with your bandwidth.
I love Windows 10, it has many cool features. Some I'm still to experiment with.
Hopefully it will sink into you 
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson
Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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Griff,
I get happier and happier that I decided to sit this one out. My systems were all set to upgrade and something in my head screamed DON'T so I removed that KB fix that would have performed the upgrade. The more I read in various places the more I realize I dodged a bullet. Win7 is on all of my machines except my main development box which has 8.1 and works FINE. I placed "Start8" on this guy and boot up in desktop mode. The desktop GUI in 8.1, although flattened compared with Win7 has actually grown on me a bit, it's certainly not a problem. My apps still look fine.
I checked all this out on a VM with Win10 and found the same things you did with regard to the GUI and personally thought it sucked.
Thanks for your detailed review. I'm convinced I made the right call by staying put. I've got better things to do than fiddle with the OS anymore anyway.
Thanks,
-ClockMeister
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1) Entirely a matter of opinion, surely? There will be just as many wondering what all that past beautification had to do with anything. Surely, they will opine, what matters is function?
2) I've said previously that this is a gripe which seems to be bordering on unique to you. I started with a local account, an option clearly available in the initial upgrade, I later transferred to the MS account to test out some synchronised elements, and have recently returned to a local account. None of these changes involved any difficulty.
3) Again, in my initial update the power scheme was retained exactly as I previously had configured it.
4) So, you've never had to change your default browser before? When you installed W7, for example? Edge has a way to go - didn't we all know that?
5) MS apps use MS search engine shock! At least it is tweakable even if it feels like too much trouble.
6) So why did you?
7) Doctor, doctor it hurts when I do this. Well don't do it then!
8) Nope. Defender has worked without the slightest hitch since the upgrade.
Is W10 perfect? No. Is it, as you suggest, terrible, unusable and infinitely annoying? No. Not at all. I wasn't going to upgrade. I now have, after a bit of experimenting in a VM, and I really haven't had any problems. I fully anticipated having to do some tweaking as you would when installing any new OS and have been more than surprised by just how little I've had to do. I've no interest in reversing your decision but I do think it should be up to each of us to make that decision for ourselves on our own terms which requires a rather less biassed assessment than your diatribe provides.
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One thing people need to keep in mind with Windows 10 is that YMMV.
1) I don't mind the new look, except for a couple of things, the difference between active and in-active windows needs to be less subtle and the borders need to be a bit thicker as it can be a PITA to resize windows when using a trackpad. Live tiles are fine, on a tablet, I don't need them on a desktop start menu.
2) If you're on a domain it doesn't ask for a Microsoft ID it just keeps the domain account, other than that enter a dummy account then continue without a Microsoft ID.
3) My backups are fine, scheduled task calling wbAdmin.
4) Take note, when upgrading there is a section where it tries to set the default apps, don't click next, instead click the link on the bottom left where it says "Customize default apps" or something similar and you can de-select all the new default apps. As for Edge, it is rough, one issue is that importing favourites causes them to be placed in alphabetical order with any folders placed at the bottom also there doesn't seem to be an easy way to re-order them.
5) I don't like Google either so not sure what the problem is here.. 
6) Cortana, well it works, personally I think it makes more sense on a phone than a desktop, I just can't get used to talking to my computer.
7) Don't use Metro apps except in tablet mode so no comment.
8) Never had Windows Defender do anything that weird, not even on my old Core2 duo laptop.
Personally I don't have a problem with the majority of Win 10 except for Edge which does need work.
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs
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I have spent almost as much time ranting about Win10 as I have trying to fix it. Now I have a stable install and I am gradually introducing it to my favourite programs (old school, don't like to call them applications). Yes I had a little issue with logins but it was easy to sort out. Dual booting was a problem until I killed fast start (didn't notice the difference).
Generally it works. That's all I can honestly say. It hasn't blown me away with its wonderfulness and my personal preference is for the resource hungry Win7 look.
Bearing in mind MS will probably stop supporting Win7 before too long I decided to bite the bullet and go for it. So far I haven't regretted it.
The only bit that really doesn't work for me is Cortana.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Your #1 point is mine too! I installed this hideous spectacle of a UI on my home PC. For my older eyes, everything is harder to discern. It works OK and I won't bother reverting but when I think about the Win 7 look and feel (which I stall have at work, hallelujah) I get pizzed off. Why, why, why did they do this to me? Who thought this look was an improvement? Part of it may be change for the sake of marketing, it must be significantly different to appear new. OMG, gag me with a spoon.
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Thanks. I wondered.
I need a computer that works good for development, photo and video editing, multiple browsers.... Win 7 is great, but I was open to 10. I hate the flat style and no borders. That style came with the excuse that they were distractions, but it is really that phones don't have the room. They aren't distractions, they are important information on a desktop.
In that I have figured out already that Win 10 is mostly made for spying on you, I have been developing a Linux Mint installation for everything but VS and video editing. I'm in the middle of getting Wine in for 90% of what I do. Then I can install solitaire and NotePad++. 95% of the time I am just browsing, writing, playing solitaire or editing photos (Oh Gimp it all!). I'll turn on Windows when I need to.
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Maybe because I am 45 I am not so sensitive about how windows borders look or about windows tiles.
I did upgrade my ASUS core i7 laptop from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10, installed VS 2013, VS 2010, MySQL, Office and have worked with it from day one without trouble. In fact I don't see much difference from Windows 8.x but for the start menu which I would like to say that I missed a lot, but no. It's just a menu, it's simple, so it's ok.
In my main gaming machine I also use Windows 10 and all my steam collection is still working as usual.
Maybe I am prone to accept anything without questioning much. But in my opinion Windows 10 is a fine OS. If your cheese is moved please look a bit to the left and continue your day
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I've noticed something very important, so EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION, GOD DAMN IT!... which is that Windows 10 works much, much better as a clean install than as an upgrade. But do the upgrade anyway, then reinstall it from scratch, wiping everything out.
Here's why:
When Windows 10 first activates, it registers your PC on Microsoft's servers. By "your PC" I mean the motherboard, or the serial number in the processor, or something - not sure what (it'd be interesting to see how much of the PC you can change without breaking the process). But then, you can wipe your PC completely and reinstall Windows 10 WITHOUT entering a serial number (just keep selecting "skip" or "do this later" when it asks) and it'll auto-activate itself again once the installation is done, without you having to do anything: Microsoft's servers will recognize your hardware and make it happen, and you won't waste a serial number, or an installation, or whatever.
Alles Klaar?
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Ah, yes - that's the one. I knew I'd seen it somewhere...
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This doesn't surprise me at all. The direction MS has been going with Windows has pretty much convinced me that W7 is the last Microsoft Windows version I will use. When that is no longer feasible my VM Linuxes will become my mainstay.
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I ran it for a day then reverted back to Win 7. Then, after reading about
the privacy and the poor performance issues I know I will never install
it again. As a personal protest, I wiped windows off my backup PC and
installed Ubuntu.
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Excellent observations; I pretty much have had the same experience and feelings. As for the loss of the Windows 7 look & feel, I'm most annoyed by the loss of the colored top bar. And the part about me using my E-mail address as my login was horrid; I managed to find an article that detailed how to get rid of it. One lingering problem I seem to be having is the the User Security, as some of my files seem to need to be changed to being owned by me (or whatever.)
I bought a system that had 8.1 installed ( couldn't find one with 7), and I decided to completely rebuild it with 7; this has caused a lot of strange hardware issues, including not being able to use my MagicJack dongle. What do you know In 10, it works perfectly.
There are still some issues that bug me, like not having file & icon associations persist through updates, but learned to live with 10, and hopefully Micro$oft will grt the hint to fix the remaining issues.
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That's one of the most inciteful summaries I've seen so far. With all its foibles, WinNT was the easiest to manage. Microsoft will have Win10 sorted out by 2020, just in time to make it obsolete and force us on to the next mistake.
The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.
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Well, I am still running windows XP and will do so for as long as I can before switching to Mac. I have used windows 7 on client computers and it's fine, though the nwer vesrions of Office with that agonising Ribbon of death are not. However, mainstream support has, I believe, already ended as have sales of windows 7 (correct me if I am wrong). At least with XP I don't have to have a coffee, my old PC boots quick as a flash. The only downside is I cannot use the latest versions of VS express and Netbeans, but then I don't need to at the moment. Eventually my IDE will be too many versions behind and then I will have to switch. This old PC does what I want - the OS is easy to use, I can write the applications I need, I can do the computer graphics I spend so much time on, I can manage my website, and it generally works very well. (It can overheat when doing graphics intensive tasks on a very hot day though, but I monitor its temperature and pause it if necessary).
What would make me buy a new PC with a Microsoft OS? One that is like Windows XP, only newer, more powerful, faster, respected my privacy and was more secure. Basically a better version of Windows XP would make me buy a new PC today (or as soon as I have a day off work). No hope there then.
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Windoze10 has become the ultimate spyware...
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Are Rhinos just overweight Unicorns?
(And yes, Win 10 did inspire this)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Clickety
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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Perfect... 
Will Rogers never met me.
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They are that and so much more.
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The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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In the same way that manatees are just overweight mermaids.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Or maybe unicorns are anorexic rhinos?
while (true) {
continue;
}
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