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Very much! there's been a talk about Mobile Application size in my office. And I would want to be very frugal with the MBs. I don't like when the size flies off lavishly like 30+MB for a normal App. Guess what? Facebook App size was like 130MB[^]. I don't know what the heck an App like FB has got to do with 130MB! 
Now people want to set this as a standard and do reckless dumping of bytes into the builds. Anything that looks goes above 10MB feels like a bloat, un-optimized. But it does depend on what we are doing inside the App. Game applications and other rich UX, and some libraries cost us more MBs. Unavoidable. But simple daily-apps, going above 10MB, I'm sure there would be a lot of rooms for optimization.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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It's the frameworks. They bloat code in unthinkable ways - that's why we keep boost libraries well out of the door for example.
Unluckily many junior programmers are taught that frameworks are the only sane way, also they allow unexperienced programmers to rapidly build up complex systems. Which is great, on paper, but it's like saying that it allows newbies to build functional nuclear power plants without havig to worry about the details. Kind of scary... Even without using the nuclear power just think of cars, houses, bridges, etc built by inexperienced and quickly trained engineers because they have been given a huge lego set.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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If a coffee bean is between the Earth and the Sun, is it a Java Eclipse? -- Sascha Lefèvre
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People here really don't like FB.
They'll tell you to "take your FB elsewhere" and "I couldn't care less about FB".
Also that FB does not belong on CP because... Well I don't really remember, but you'd think that one of the biggest tech companies in the world belongs on one of the biggest forums about tech in the world.
Also going completely besides the point that you hate over-doing UX and just bash FB.
That's funny though, such reactions are not those of people who "don't care", they're the reactions of people who somehow are really bothered by FB and care a great deal 
Anyway, that's what happened the last time when I mentioned FB in a post 
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I created my "FB" account a decade after it was available to public. I did that just to see what's in there. I'm never impressed with the social networking concepts. That's just okay, IMO. At times, When it matters to know the safety and availability of loved ones, I think they do help. But still I don't use it much. And I never managed to create my twitter account even today. I didn't see a need.
And the reason I said "I don't know if it's been there for long" clearly tells I do not frequent it.
I do not like me or my mates at work wasting time on social networks. (Okay, slacking @ Lounge, is fine, Codeproject is a technical Forum. )
And now I'm back in FB for marketing reasons. lol like a wolf in sheep's clothing, among the sheeps . That's what the job wants me to do. And the only time I'm going to mention "FB" here is when I'm ranting about it. And finally, I just dislike that guy called Marksuckerberg. 
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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"Features" in FaceBook are like the hooded, beaked-bird-masked, doctors that went out in plague-struck cities in ye ancient tymes: [^]. They are frightening, useless, and do nothing but bleed the life out of you.
«The truth is a snare: you cannot have it, without being caught. You cannot have the truth in such a way that you catch it, but only in such a way that it catches you.» Soren Kierkegaard
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Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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I only deliberately saw a face-book page once. The limited exposure is a clear indicator that I saw quite enough.
When I've the urge to rant and rave in public, exposing my innermost being to strangers (and drunks), I click my heels three times whilst chanting "there's no place like home", and open my eyes to find myself in the CP lounge. As a fresh breeze blows away the Gin haze, all is as well with the world as one should expect. My hopea are protected by Dante.
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I'm so glad about one thing here in the lounge. It just stays as texts/smiles. So cool!
We got no option to share those dumb pictures ("Posters") inline. In FB, Every d*ck creates a poster with some mountain/sunrise/sunset BG and writes his own theory in two lines. Like... Life is all about.. which is applicable to JUST HIM! There were few good ones too, but who cares? there's billion good content out there with all those fun. One would end up wasting so much of time reading all those good junks!
Email forums were quite good too, but we need to a bit thick skinned for some personal attacks. (I think it applies everywhere, never mind!  )
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
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I don't use FarseBook but have seen it elsewhere. I promptly wrote new rules for my ad-blockercontent blocker to make the crap go away forever.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I've realised that I lie to myself in code.
My comments on why a piece of logic is as it is sound so very convincing and reasonable. Except they are lies: damn lies.
I need to sit down and have a word to myself, I think.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: I need to sit down and have a word to myself, I think.
Try and have an honest conversation -- your self will know when you're lying to yourself!
Marc
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Every comment I write seems to be more naive as time goes by with the oldest ones down right no duh or down right ludicrous.
So I hear ya.
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Good thing about multiple personalities is that you have alternate views, bad news is do you trust them? 
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It sounds like they are wishful thinking comments , rather than Actual code comments. 
Remember, Trust but verify.
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lol And do you say out the logic loud?If yes, then it's a loud lie!
Just like some folks do here in my team.. 
They just speak out the code while typing. Sounds amusing like "Here we get the list, now this gets sorted, and pass it here.." I feel like he has a Fat mute button on his head.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy.
modified 21-Apr-16 2:14am.
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That's the reason I don't read comments and only rarely write them 
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especially when going round and round doing the same thing and believe it will work 
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As an old timer in the world of programming (feed-register-release), I learned that I really cannot debug my own code - and one reason is a constant background process that simply removes thoughts about doing stupid and unexpected things to the application.
Over the years, like the rest of us, I spend a lot of effort handling boundary conditions in an attempt to foil user attempts at getting my attention. I comment all over the place - honestly, I'll admit - but sometimes what seemed so clear so long ago was apparently gibberish, after all.
Oddly, I don't remember being drunk at the time.
So - if I'm fortunate, someone will bang on it before it goes live, looking for problems. Describing the problem to someone also seems to work as I rephrase into the common speech.
But - the bottom line is that, when you wrote and released the work, you didn't leave any bugs you knew about in it (or do you work for MicroSoft?) - so why should they be easy to spot now? If they were they'd never have gotten by to begin with.
Disclaimer: the preceding was a fantasy of how I pretend I work. Any resemblance to any code that has gone live or is in beta is purely coincidental and probably a figment of both of our imaginations.
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Remember, he's laughing with you, not at you.
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No such things as bugs - they are referred to as "undocumented product characteristics".
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This why I don't generally comment my code. Once in a while I will, if it's a case of a brief explanation of an unusual algorithm, or it's not obvious as to why I did something.
I adamantly refuse to comment what code is doing, except with regard to the XML comments on library code. Yes, I'm one of those people.
Currently reading: "The Two Towers", by J.R.R. Tolkien
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Quote: Except they are lies: damn lies.
Do you have any statistics on that? 
Cheers,
Mike Fidler
"I intend to live forever - so far, so good." Steven Wright
"I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met." Also Steven Wright
"I'm addicted to placebos. I could quit, but it wouldn't matter." Steven Wright yet again.
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On the plus side, shows that you're continuing to improve as a developer.
Seems as if every time I review something from (say) six months ago, it's "what was I thinking?"
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Reading comments from 10 years ago is like finding an old diary. Sometimes you think "What was I smoking when I wrote that?" and other times you just chuckle at how naive you were.
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I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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