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Kevin Marois wrote: but the nice ones provide options to disable them.
A lot of vendors will make their software stop working until you upgrade to the latest version.
And to top this all off, Windows 10 is great. I know a lot of people have had issues upgrading but it's still worth it. Support for win7 ends this year, I believe.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: Support for win7 ends this year, I believe.
Don't know where you got that idea. 2020 at last count.
I am not a number. I am a ... no, wait!
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9082365 wrote: Don't know where you got that idea.
From an email from our support team today. I misread it.
Apparently sales end Halloween this year for Win 7.
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RyanDev wrote: Windows 10 is great.
Wumao alert!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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My support for Mickeysoft is also growing a little short by now.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: My support for Mickeysoft is also growing a little short by now.
I just don't see why. Lots of people in CP certainly agree with you but all their complaints about Microsoft could also be said about most other vendors. But no one is even close to doing a better job than Microsoft.
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If that's so, then it's time for them to follow the dinosaurs.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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But what we would be left with without Microsoft? Linux? 
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Why not? If that's what it takes to get rid of them and their next grand plans.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: Why not?
Because Linux sucks. 
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Strange, I used to say that as well. Now I prefer it over being taken for a fool time and again.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote: being taken for a fool time and again.
And how did Microsoft do that?
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Just look at the last four versions and look what happened. Three times out of four, with Vista, Win 8 and now Win 10, they tried to push some grand ideas down our throats, wether we wanted them or not. They even went out of their way to kill off their previous grand ideas in order to usher you to the next one. Somewhere else in this thread someone wrote something like treating customers like cattle. That's what I call being taken as a fool, twice for every time they said 'oops' and came with their next horrible thing. By now we obviously have no more choice at all, at least according to Mickeysoft. They hijack your computer against your will and feel free to spend your bandwith in any way they please, possibly even creating an extra bill, but your are right: They are really doing such a great job. It's not like anybody is having severe difficulties after finally falling victim to their intrusion.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Spot on.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I guess I'm just a capitalist at heart. If you don't like them, move on. 
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Capitalism is a mortal sin, in Christianity.
The only time that Jesus lost his temper was in the "office" of capitalists.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Being deceptive and trying to provoke trouble are also against the tenets of Christianity.
"Childish tantrum" is obviously you fishing for an argument, because there has been nothing childish or tantrum-ish in anything I've said to you.
Your little "oh, i'm superior to everyone because i'm a christian/capitalist/ms wumao" trip isn't even annoying, it's so surreal. It's like watching a car accident.
Also, you've made it very clear, in the past, that it is you who knows nothing at all about the bible, in discussions where I have quoted it (from memory, then looked up the chapter and verse), but you were not able to raise even a single quote (despite googling).
Here's where you can start to redeem yourself: Where, in the bible, does it say that capitalism is not an evil, which sinners will be punished for, come judgement day?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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RyanDev wrote: All kinds of vendors do auto-updates. This is nothing new.
Yes, of course, except in this case we're not talking about an update, but a full upgrade.
Interestingly, I'm using an entreprise version of Windows 7 at home; I never saw any sollicitation to upgrade to Windows 10. Do Microsoft fear being sued by entreprises for upgrading systems without full compatibility having being tested? I wonder if a class action could make them back off.
You always obtain more by being rather polite and armed than polite only.
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phil.o wrote: we're not talking about an update, but a full upgrade.
potato potato.
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Wow, I'm impressed. What an elephanting argument!
You always obtain more by being rather polite and armed than polite only.
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Sorry, I guess you confused me with someone else with whom you were arguing.
Perhaps you don't know what "potato potato" means. That is quite possible. It's really an audible thing. In American English there are 2 common ways of pronouncing potato. But either way, it's still a potato.
An update or an upgrade, who cares? It's still their software, not yours.
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I bought the OS, as well as the computer to make it run. So in my point of view, they are fully mine.
I get your point, though; what a world it would be if marketing people were not allowed to treat their customers as cattle anymore.
And thanks for the linguistic information (no sarcasm here, really); I would hesitate to use it for my own argumentation, though.
You always obtain more by being rather polite and armed than polite only.
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phil.o wrote: So in my point of view, they are fully mine.
There is the problem. You don't own software, you essentially rent it.
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