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Christian Graus wrote:
Now we all realise this is a quote from the Blues Brothers, right ?
It is? Have not watched the Blues Brothers (was before my time and seeing the trailer for Blues Brothers 2000 really put me off seeing the original BB) so I could not tell.
Christian Graus wrote:
It's probably worth keeping in mind that some of us have made CP a way of life
You mean there are people who haven't? Arrgghhh, and I probably shook hands with one of the sinners! Aarrgghh! 
Christian Graus wrote:
that really don't deserve analysis. ( Yes, I realised this AFTER starting a thread on it below ).
Christian, I too have a hard time not pushing the Submit button when I realise I have talked myself into a corner. So don't worry, I understand...
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
"The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
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Be realistic. You can play with whatever you want at home (if you are not married), but at work, most of us do not have a choice. If the boss says "use VC 6.0 only", then we have 2 options.
1. Quit.
2. Use VC 6.0 only
Now, it would be an interesting poll, but I guess at least 80% would pick the second option.
I vote pro drink ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
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There's nothing stopping anyone from reading up on new technologies, downloading the SDK's and spending an hour every couple of days playing with samples and stuff (unless it's the .NET SDK and you're on a phone line).
The question is more about what you do in your own time, not your boss's time.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
The question is more about what you do in your own time, not your boss's time.
Nish
p.s. Chris M, have you been spying on me using some kinda adware?
Nish was here, now Nish has gone;
He left his soul, to turn you on;
Those who knew Nish, knew him well;
Those who didn't, can go to hell.
I like to ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif) on the Code Project
Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
www.busterboy.org
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Depends.. If I say "it takes me 6 month longer than erwriting the whole mess in Fortran".... Only I then have to *do* it.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
Be realistic. You can play with whatever you want at home (if you are not married),
What are you saying ? Are you married ?
While this is true, surely we play with new things on our own time anyhow ? I know I had to learn GDI+ on my own time before I made a case to my boss for it ( actually I showed him our app ported to it, and all the extra stuff it did ). I learned ATL in my own time, which got me my new job. If we don't learn things in our own time that are not part of our job, then the subset of programming we do now stands a good chance of being all we will ever do, IMO.
Christian
I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
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Christian Graus wrote:
What are you saying ? Are you married ?
I am married, but that was a joke. Of course you must spend a lot of the "free" time learning, if you want to stay in this profession. I learned VB, assembler, C# and even STL on my own time. But to become a real expert in something, I guess you need to use it professionaly. And if your company does not want you to work on that "something", then IMHO you will either spend too much of your own time playing with it (the time you could use to learn something else), or never become an expert.
I've played a lot with C# last year. But I am not a C# expert. Not until I earn some money with it.
I vote pro drink ![Beer | [beer]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif)
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
Christian Graus wrote:
What are you saying ? Are you married ?
I am married, but that was a joke.
I presumed so, when you said
You can play with whatever you want at home (if you are not married),
I guessed this meant there are things you'd like to play with at home but are not allowed to 
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
I learned VB, assembler, C# and even STL on my own time.
I am learning C# on my own time, I certainly learned STL at home. I spent the next month at work on other peoples PC's and showing them how to use it. We are fully STL at viewbuild now. I smack anyone who tries to use anything else
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:
But to become a real expert in something, I guess you need to use it professionaly. And if your company does not want you to work on that "something", then IMHO you will either spend too much of your own time playing with it (the time you could use to learn something else), or never become an expert.
I've played a lot with C# last year. But I am not a C# expert. Not until I earn some money with it.
I guess it depends on how much time you get to play with it, and how. I create a project for the purpose of learning something, so I have both a goal, and a reason to press on with every detail of a project using something new, and I'd spend about 30 hours a week working on my own code.
Christian
I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
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Part of a programmer's job is to advise his/her usually not as technically minded boss on what tools to use for a project, i.e. VC 6.0 vs .net vs VB, etc.. If you are in a job where your opinions mean nothing to your boss, I suggest you change jobs... 
Sef Tarbell
"A mind all logic is like a knife all blade, it makes the hand bleed that wields it." -- Rabindranath Tagore
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To advise is one thing, but to make decision is another.
I vote pro drink
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Has anyone read the text answers ? Try this:
Q: Are you a developer who likes to dive into the latest technologies, or do you prefer to stick with what you know?
A: Image Processing
or
A: if changes made in ASP automatic changes have to be done in Dynamic page
I'll admit the first one could mean 'stick with what I know, which is image processing' ( Chris Losinger ? It wasn't me, that's for sure ), but how does the second response constitute an answer to the question ? Did I miss something ?
Christian
I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
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I think somebody has mistaken the edit box for the search option.
Michael
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Michael P Butler wrote:
I think somebody has mistaken the edit box for the search option.
ROTFLMAO
LOLOLOLOL
Nish
Nish was here, now Nish has gone;
He left his soul, to turn you on;
Those who knew Nish, knew him well;
Those who didn't, can go to hell.
I like to ![Jig | [Dance]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif) on the Code Project
Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
www.busterboy.org
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Everytime I allow free text answers we get 'search' type responses.
Does it look like a search box? Is there something I'm missing here? 
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Does it look like a search box? Is there something I'm missing here?
uhmmm, for me that edit box looks just like any other edit box used for search. But I am not 100% sure because I'm using that wonderful CP bar plugin to search on CodeProject. So I just cant get confused with all that input stuff and UI widgets.
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Hmm - OK, we're getting closer then.
Andreas Saurwein wrote:
for me that edit box looks just like any other edit box used for search
But aren't all edit boxes kinda the same anyway?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Losinger wrote:
wasn't me...
That's a song by Shaggy.
Nish
Nish was here, now Nish has gone;
He left his soul, to turn you on;
Those who knew Nish, knew him well;
Those who didn't, can go to hell.
I like to on the Code Project
Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain
www.busterboy.org
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Chris Losinger wrote:
i'm pragmatic.
It didn't seem to be something you would say, but you were the only other person I could think of who does image processing, so I thought I'd pick on you anyhow
Christian
I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
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Why did the last poll only last a day ?
Christian
I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
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I assumed I'd been asleep for a week and Monday had come around again
I guess Chris took onboard some of the "suggestions" by some of the more vocal "Too much .NET" choir.
Michael
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I guess. I'm a little disappointed, it's not like anything like the majority felt that way. I thought the poll a little repetitive, I admit, but not enough to whine about it, and like a petulant child, giving such professional whingers what they want only makes them worse.
Christian
I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
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How was it...aha:
"Sit up, shoulders back, and take it like a man"
Don't cry little boy, there will be a lot of opportunities to insult the people in the future.
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