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Nishant S wrote:
What I meant is that Java is an even bigger joke than Perl as a future language of importance.
Says who?
You obviously haven't been hanging around Java people. Put this same survey in a Java-centric site and see what happens.
Regards,
Alvaro
Hey! It compiles! Ship it.
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There we go again 
Don't think the language war will ever end 
Happy programming,
Rakesh Rajan
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Java will loose a lot of popularity on the windows environment because Microsoft has droped its compiler support for Java as a result of the problems with SUN and the MS JVM. Starting in 2004 MS will not be able to distribute its JVM and must distribute SUNs instead.
John
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Nishant S wrote:
What I meant is that Java is an even bigger joke than Perl as a future language of importance.
While I agree that Java is a joke as a future language, PERL is not. It has not gotten the popularity in the Windows world that it has in the *Nix world, but give it time and some people will wonder why they try to write Melissa-style worms in VB instead of PERL :P
"If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week"
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Not any more 
Rakesh
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I can tell you right now that the most important language in the Windows world for the next 5 years is C++. Microsoft has said it is writing the next 2 versions of Windows using Managed C++.
As far as application programming, the languages don't matter much when using the .Net architecture.
"If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week"
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 I agree with you.
Most of people participating in vote must be working with .NET or excited with .NET framework.
What ever b the result on this site... C++ will remain most important language in future.
Anand
The chosen one...
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I think importance of C++ or C# are more a matter of domains where they would be of better use rather than raw power or that stuff.
It seems C++ is targetted towards the development of device-drivers and high-performance apps, whereas C# more towards the usual to advanced Windows APPs and of course with ASP.NET.
There's no doubt that C# lets u develop apps much simpler and faster than C++. So how could C++ be important here? And of course vice versa
Happy programming,
Rakesh Rajan
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Rakesh Rajan wrote:
There's no doubt that C# lets u develop apps much simpler and faster than C++.
 Isn't there?
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In many respects, I don't think so...do u?
Rakesh Rajan
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I use both C++ and C#, and generally I don't see much diferrence in productivity. In fact, I would say that C++ tends to be somewhat more productive language, especially when it comes to resource handling. And operator == in C# is definitelly brain damaged. In Java it means checking for identity, in C++ it is checking for equality, but in C# it can be any of those. You need to look at the documentation to find out.
One thing I really like about C# is the explicit control of method overriding (new and override keywords).
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It seems you are talking in the microscopic sense. I was talking about the productivity in the outset - the big picture. When you think about general applications, using C# to code is usually faster than developing it in C++. The case is different in different domains though.
Rakesh Rajan
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Rakesh Rajan wrote:
It seems C++ is targetted towards the development of device-drivers and high-performance apps, whereas C# more towards the usual to advanced Windows APPs and of course with ASP.NET.
I have found that most of the time, an experienced C++ programmer can create a much better "advanced Windows App" than a similarly experienced C# programmer. While that is a huge over-generalization, it does seem to follow that less experienced programmers are initially drawn to VB and C# because of their simplicity. However, you eventually run into a wall in those languages (e.g. when memory management becomes an important issue) and C++ becomes the way to go.
All 3 languages have their uses though.
"If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week"
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anandparanjpe wrote:
Most of people participating in vote must be working with .NET or excited with .NET framework
That, or they have never had to develope an application what initially runs in Windows, but also has to be protable to Mac or *Nix.
"If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week"
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Hehe, C# ahead with one vote !!
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And here I was thinking I was being outrageously funny...
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Yes, Perl can be ugly, it is not as glamarous as many other languages... but for a general purpose scripting language (for Windows or any other OS), it is the way to go.
We don't distribute any Perl apps, but we do use them in-house quite frequently.
It sure beats programming with batch files. 
If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.
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I know its not cool but SQL is at the top of the employers most wanted list 
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More generally spoken, they want profound Database knowledge.
And no one seems to care for .NET here. But maybe that is because I am into scientific computing, not 'lifestyle'-computing.
Who is 'General Failure'? And why is he reading my harddisk?!?
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It's just a file format with a lot of hype;)
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Anonymous wrote:
It's just a file format with a lot of hype
Just like C#! 
The magic to 'sharp'en C++ is in the CLR - not in the language.
Who is 'General Failure'? And why is he reading my harddisk?!?
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