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Yeh, I love my job too... but. Have you ever though that there are many brainless people around making fortunes doing some simple tasks like selling coffee???
While we are excited building cool applications until 3am they are sharing their time with family or friends... and that's life after all.
So not now... but, after five years I hope to be having fun with technology and not living from it. That drives me to thing that I'll be here in IT, but not as a pro.
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I've been building, fixing, and programming computers for other people for over twenty years. I sincerely hope I can make the transition to being a consumer (ie. a user of tech) versus a producer of tech (ie. a person who creates/facilitates tech for others) really soon. I hope this make sense to others ....Jet
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How sad ... it's like you're a man in a woman's body
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Paul Brower wrote: it's like you're a man in a woman's body
 I really don't understand that comment at all.
"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."
--Charles Babbage (1791-1871)
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Maybe he's one of the monkeys trying to type Hamlet...?
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Who really knows what they will be doing in five years? I am not sure what is going to be going on tomorrow. Besides that this "field" wasn't my first choice at the time, it just kind of branch and spread out from that point (like 6 years ago : -) )
Sometimes I think I am getting sick of it, but then I take a week off and get right back in the game.
Another question... Who is voting in this poll, using codeproject & not in an IT related field ?
Just my 2 Cents : ->
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diilbert wrote: Who is voting in this poll, using codeproject & not in an IT related field ?
Well, I guess it's a slightly skewed sampling of the population. 
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Thats true. I'm getting sick of it too.
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"...Who is voting in this poll, using codeproject & not in an IT related field ? ..."
I don't, and have never worked in IT. I just enjoy finding out exactly what you can push software to do. Browsing Code Project, and sites like it, is much more fun than vegetating in front of the television (since it seems to broadcast soap operas and reality TV most of the time). 
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There is some brown stuff on your nose.
"Until the day of his death, no man can be sure of his courage" -- Jean Anouilh
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See here[^].
Software Zen: delete this;
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Nah, I have lots too say but I have alerts sent to my home email which, unfortantely, can't be checked through my webmail account because of some silly guy deciding to use a differnt SSL port.
My comment was not meant to be offensive but was definately funny in the context of your post. (or at least I laughed about it)
"Until the day of his death, no man can be sure of his courage" -- Jean Anouilh
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For your webmail...
try to use http://www.mail2web.com/
I dont know if it's possible, but if they give you a pop port you can definitly get your email.
If someone says "Die mortal!", don't stay to see if he isn't.
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A few weeks ago I stole your tagline and I use it at work. I pay for domain hosting and through that I get email and while they do offer pop connection (and I do use it sometimes) it is best not to allow personal email on work machines. Of course my godaddy domains work just fine with webmail. The point? Don't use Avidhosting!
"Until the day of his death, no man can be sure of his courage" -- Jean Anouilh
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I love this stuff, but in the cold gray light of early morning, drinking that first cup of coffee and thinking about my future, it's hard to have much confidence in a future doing anything like the present. My current employer is committed to outsourcing most of its development staff, and no matter how hard i work the truth is it's inevitable that sooner or later i'll be seen as nothing more than a relic, and either encouraged or forced to leave. I'll probably find similar work elsewhere, but it's anyone's guess how long that'll last. Everything i see tells me i should be working towards building a reputation as a consultant, but i know in my heart that it isn't in me to do that. The things that drew me to this line of work seem to be disappearing fast; maybe it's like PJ says below: doing it professionally kills the fun. But the longer i'm here the more it seems like the one thing that made it all worthwhile, the chance to compile a list of high-level requirements and then lose myself in the code for hours, days, weeks... is gone for good.
IT has become dull and lifeless to me; i feel old and wonder often why i even bother.
Time for that second cup of coffee...
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Time for that second cup of coffee Prozac...
Man, you need to find a different application area to work in. You sound burned out.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Shog9 wrote: doing it professionally kills the fun.
I beg to differ. As a consultant, I've worked on really cool projects that have been a blast to work on, and I get paid well for the work.
Shog9 wrote: the chance to compile a list of high-level requirements and then lose myself in the code for hours, days, weeks... is gone for good.
Oh, I don't know. I don't think you can outsource the creative part of coding. As to the grunt work, please, outsource it! I pretty much do this all the time with my clients, but yes, if I couldn't do this, I'd probably try making a living at stained glass.
Shog9 wrote: IT has become dull and lifeless to me; i feel old and wonder often why i even bother.
Seriously? With all the cool stuff coming out from Microsoft? (I'll get flamed for not mentioning all the other stuff out there too). Honestly, when I feel jaded with IT, I go out and invent something to amuse myself, and next thing you know, it's an open source project, or an article, or something to share with others.
Marc
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Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Marc Clifton wrote: As to the grunt work, please, outsource it!
What's the grunt work though? Isn't programming an art down to the level of the actual code?
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J. Dunlap wrote: Isn't programming an art down to the level of the actual code?
Oh no, not at all. Grunt work is things like, write the code that serializes the user's user interface options--window positions, toolbars, theme, etc. Even writing a custom property grid editor is grunt work, IMO. Or a custom DataGridView visualizer. Blech. Do one, the rest is grunt work. Another example--if I have 100 commands in a client/server system that need wrapper classes for serialization/deserialization, I can spec out what the parameters in each command is, but coding them? Grunt work! And a template generator will only get you so far.
The problem is, some grunt work is basically anywhere from 60 seconds to maybe an hour worth. Not easy to outsource. And some grunt work does require a certain level of expertise, but I label it grunt work because it detracts from the art of programming. 
Marc
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Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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I may not be experienced and talented enough to re-architect a whole e-commerce system, but I sure as heck can keep it running, and do little tiny functional add-in's here and there.
Even though to most people, that's an example of grunt work, to me it's still fun. Believe it or not, sometimes what most others consider grunt work is actually a challenge to many people with rudamentary development skills - and there are tons of us out there. In my case, my small tweaks keep someone in the company happy and more able to do their job, and that's its own reward.
Oh sure, even the grunts still have grunt work - I think "grunt work" can be considered anything considerably beneath the average skill level of the developer in question. Heck, for all I know, quantum theory might be grunt work for someone out there.
So I feel while a lot of grunt work gets outsourced, they will only come up with new grunt work using new tools, and I'll be right there ready to jump on that train.
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Susan Hernandez wrote: Believe it or not, sometimes what most others consider grunt work is actually a challenge to many people with rudamentary development skills
That's a good point! I'm often excited to learn something new, but sadly, many things turn into grunt work after the novelty wears off.
Marc
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Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
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Exactly. It's fun the first few times..after that it can quickly become a chore.
I awlays remember that there's always somehting new to learn, some new technology to have a go with, if I can get well paid at the same time - even better!
yeah I love my job.
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