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OriginalGriff wrote: 12 sexual assaults,
It was indecent assault.
There might not be much difference, beyond the date offenses were committed, but it does cover a very, very wide range of behaviour and I do not know what the exact circumstances were.
The media tend not to report on the actual detail of these cases, the Max Clifford one was eventually reported by a few websites and what he was up to (with women of age IIRC) was utterly, utterly deplorable, although if you read the mainstream media you would assume it was just a bit of good old fashioned light hearted groping.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Thanks, still not too much detail of the accusations though.
The daughter's friend seems to be the crux of the matter, she initiated the investigation and most of the offenses were committed against her and were predatory. The others (form what I can tell) seem to be opportunistic and transitory, he just grabbed girls cos he got a cheap thrill out of it.
It will be interesting to see how many more come forward now, there were plenty more he couldn't be tried for as they were out of British jurisdiction, but there were allowed a say in court to establish behavior and pattern.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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According to the BBC he will probably serve half in prison, bit of a joke really
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HomerTheGreat wrote: According to the BBC he will probably serve half in prison, bit of a joke really
It's standard for all prisoners serving over 4 years (I think), you have to apply for release at the half way stage, you have to have been well behaved in prison, and you have to have admitted and shown remorse for the crimes. If release at half way he will remain under license an supervision until three quarters of the sentence have been served.
I assume he has British citizenship, if he was still Australian then the rules would be slightly different.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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The end of a career?[^]
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I'd shave and dump the glasses if I was him...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I'm not happy with this one. Saville, Jacko, and Gifford were/are all creepy ****ers with predatory eyes and behaviour. Harris has none of that.
If the evidence I've seen against him were based on greater than:
a) Word-of-mouth from a not-recovering alcoholic
b) Testimony that he committed one of the acts in a place thousands of miles from where he was physically*
I would be as behind it as I was for the three monsters listed above, but it looks like Harris is the victim of criminal behaviour, here.
* I lived in Leigh Park (Ramsdale Avenue, to be precise; my dad was stationed in Portsmouth). If Harris had been at the community centre, us kids would have known about it (insert obvious joke here). It's bullsh1t; they've dun him up.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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If this is true it's awful to think he's been stitched up, by who is the obvious question and why ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Ever heard of Salem?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Anyone any experience of, or opinions on, it?
We are currently investigating its viability for a not inconsiderable project to create a field system and as you lot are as respectable a group of folk as I know how to find at short notice I thought I'd ask.
That's it, knob jokes will resume later.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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So I thought it would be funny to put my password as "MyPenis"..... the computer said "It's not long enough"
Oh you said Later
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A wizard's staff has a knob on the end, knob on the end, knob on the end
A wizard's staff has a knob on the ennndddd!
What he does with it is magic!
http://www.lspace.org/fandom/songs/wizards-staff.html[^]
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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It doesn't have the emotion of Grumpy Grumpison's ode:
Gold gold gold gold
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I think you forgot a "gold" in there somewhere...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Very good read. I finished it last week and I found it most enjoyable. I would like to see the Moist/Spike relationship explored a bit more though as she's still very one dimensional; a rare omission by Pterry.
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Perhaps you'll be looking for this[^] in your Christmas list?
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Gold gold gold gold
Gold gold gold gold
Gold gold gold gold
Gold gold gold gold
Did you know that he stole that from Baldrick and just changed one word!?! 
Unbelievable! 
"State acheived after eating too many chocolate-covered coconut bars - bountiful"
Chris C-B
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I heard about that a while ago and was quite of disappointed it didn't seem to materialize...
But I bought a new PC recently and I like to buy a random gadget when I do...
And I then I saw that[^]!
Ho... You'll be glad to know the the power lines in my home are my new Ethernet, and it's working well! 
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Old news![^]. I have been using that at home for more than 7 years now.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Hey, not everybody can a front line hipster!
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You not moved to wireless power?
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I think you've smoked enough for one day!
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Well, for some reason my WiFI router (which is supposed to be supper good) seems mm... whymisical?
I though I give a try to EoP! Happy about it!
Still have the wifi router for other devices!
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I think you may need to read Pompey's posts twice today, just to be sure.
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