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Jeremy, my natural inclination is to do as you suggest but bear in mind that employers have banded together to support lobby groups on capital hill to support legislation such as H1-B that is designed to ratchet down U.S. tech worker wages; ergo, your employer is already dishonest. One should always reciprocate in kind.
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2868428/it-industry/new-h-1b-bill-will-help-destroy-us-tech-workforce.html
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j91234 wrote: One should always reciprocate in kindly.
FTFY
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: I find that if you're honest with your employer and always have their back, they too will have your back when it comes time to do stuff like this.
In my 30+ years of employment / consulting, I have found only one client for which that is true. For example, after being the savior of two projects for one company, I get told "we can't guarantee your paycheck."
There is no "they too will have your back" -- the corporate world is filled with greed, incompetence, and finger pointing.
Sorry to be so negative realistic.
Marc
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truly words of wisdom here.
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I totally understand what you're saying, and believe me I agree. I find it's the poorly funded companies that act like this though. So, it all depends on the stability of the company I'd wager. To better say it, you're manager will have your back as much as possible, if you always have their back.
Jeremy Falcon
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And if I was your boss and found out you would be looking for another job. Do you think you are the only one who should benefit from your innovative idea.
I loathe developers who guard their code, I often see it in junior developers especially if they are working on new tech.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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It would be a pleasant world if there were a positive correlation between intelligence and one's authority in an organization; sadly, the opposite prevails, which forces all participants to join the battle using any means at their disposal. This is war. I didn't make the rules; rather, they were imposed.
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j91234 wrote: Rather than divulge this method
So the others are just too dumb to work it out?
j91234 wrote: The remainder of the allotted time you give to yourself by studying something that is useful for your career all the while looking busy
Does this mean you have not bought in at all to the product you are building or the organisation you work in? If you said "spend the remainder of the time contributing in some useful way to what is going on" that may also include research and will also benefit you. It is just a more constructive way of looking at the same set of circumstances.
j91234 wrote: position of control rather than your employer
While you are at work being paid the employer has some control. You can still maintain your self respect. If you want more control become an independent contractor. That is the road many here have taken. It may be the acid test of how brilliant you are.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
modified 15-Aug-16 20:56pm.
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Conveniently, those who possess the requisite level intelligence to proffer a similar or superior productivity enhancement would also be worldly wise and therefore loathe to divulge their ideas.
you write "Does this mean [that] you have not bought in at all to the product you are building...".
Rest assured that your hard work is unlikely to earn you tenure nor improve your compensation. You have no equity in the asset that you have created. And that asset will continue to generate revenue for your employer long after you've left the company. This arrangement is rather unfair, I would think, so please tell me, why would you be motivated to divulge any ideas whatsoever.
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Conveniently, those who possess the requisite level intelligence to proffer a similar or superior productivity enhancement would also be worldly wise and therefore loathe to divulge their ideas.
you write "Does this mean [that] you have not bought in at all to the product you are building...".
Rest assured that your hard work is unlikely to earn you tenure nor improve your compensation. You have no equity in the asset that you have created. And that asset will continue to generate revenue for your employer long after you've left the company. This arrangement is rather unfair, I would think, so please tell me, why would you be motivated to divulge any ideas whatsoever.
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You appear to be extremely narcissistic. That makes you not a good follower but neither will you be a good leader. If you have the courage then go out on your own and test yourself in the crucible of life. This may either confirm your brilliance or sear your ego.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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j91234 wrote: The remainder of the allotted time you give to yourself by studying something that is useful for your career all the while looking busy.
And if you work for an enlightened company (maybe Google?) you are actually given 10% or so of your time to work on whatever interests you, because an enlightened company will realize the benefit of giving employees time to learn new tech, explore other ideas, etc.
Still, it's little more than corporate slavery, since you really don't benefit from the actual profit the company makes off your work beyond a paycheck. (There, I just had to go an ruin an otherwise positive post, didn't I?)
Marc
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I've been found out! Fortunately my employer allows this!
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I always have a couple of cool things to tinker with lined up.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Sometime over the weekend, Verizon added and turned on a new feature on my phone called "advanced calling".
I don't like it.
(and yes, I've already turned it off).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Weelllll, what is Advanced Calling???
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Just watch that they don't charge you extra for advanced calling exception services.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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it looks to be "advanced features" for HDef voice and video mail.
I'd rather be phishing!
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Verizon added and turned on a new feature on my phone called "advanced calling".
To be followed with "Advanced Billing", "Advanced Outages", "Advanced Bandwidth Throttling", and "Advanced Support Hold Time."
Marc
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What is Advanced Calling?
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It gives you "HD" calling, which changes the way it sounds. I didn't like the change.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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What, no intermediate calling option?
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Don't tell me, they've implemented tail call optimisations?
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Are there eight Hobbits in a hobbyte?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Oi Griff! Hobbits are Shire fantasy.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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