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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: I've made a good living out of them for a long time
Okay, you got me. 
I like Microsoft too. They were more fun when they were more engineering-centric than now that they are now more suit-centric. 
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: I have a soft spot for Microsloth as I've made a good living out of them for a long time!
That's like a guy who makes steering wheels saying that he makes a good living out of the people who build the roads.
You haven't made money out of ms; you've made money providing services to people who use computers.
ms itself is all but irrelevant in the equation -- as irrelevant as the road-builders, above.
Bill Gates, on the other hand, him you owe your living to.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: You haven't made money out of ms; you've made money providing services to people who use computers.
Yes, but I've chosen to use MS Products to do so. In any case you are being pedantic - the point does not need to be dissected and brutalized so that you can make a point of your own.
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I'm not brutalising a damned thing.
Developers who believe that they owe their living to ms are very much mistaken.
ms owes the fact that it's one of the richest corporations in the world to the developers who made the programs that attracted people to use the ms operating system.
That ain't pedantry, it's a fact of life.
Believing otherwise not only aggrandises a corporation that does not deserve it, but it demeans and belittles yourself.
Gates? I can't say enough good about him, but ms? Just another faceless corporation that's out to rape the world of as much as it can.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Believing otherwise not only aggrandises a corporation that does not deserve it, but it demeans and belittles yourself.
You're making way too much of it. 
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: You're making way too much of it.
No, I'm not.
I'm simply responding to: "I've made a good living out of [ms] for a long time", which, unless you work directly for ms, is a blatantly untrue statement, giving a false impression to people who read it (particularly young 'uns).
The fact is that you have made a good living out of your own work, skills, and abilities. ms didn't do a damned thing for you -- quite the reverse, in fact, with the number of times it's moved goalposts (and even playing fields), leaving you to have to unnecessarily research and learn new stuff that does exactly the same things as the stuff you already knew.
Talking bollocks is one thing. Talking fanbois is another.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Seriously? You really need to get a life. You've taken an innocuous statement and blown it into the crime of the century. I know you're a bit up yourself, but this just confirms it.
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Hi,
In my opinion this is more of a search engine issue. Both Bing and Google are LESS useful today... and return invalid, irrelevant or old information in nearly every query. To make matters worse... all search engines have greatly reduced the usefulness of the logical and boolean operators for queries. Google even removed the AND operator completely.
Check this out:
Bing: LPDWORD AND DWORD AND BOOL filetype:cpp[^] 2 Hits
Google: LPDWORD AND DWORD AND BOOL filetype:cpp[^] 150 Hits
I can't even "drill into" the search query to locate more C++ source code...
If I performed this same query just a few years ago... I could find thousands of advanced C++ projects from all over the world. I could keep adding and subtracting search terms with booleans and drill into the information and obtain exactly what I was looking for on nearly any subject.
I think this will have a negative effect on the entire planet... an entire generation of stupid people.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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I may have missed the point, but to get Google to 'obey' the AND you have to put the search terms in "quotes" (or single 'quotes'). Perhaps they changed the rules to help search for more complex word combinations? I now know how to search for a particular file type (never tried too up to now). I can't vouch for and won't try Bing.
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Should I make a Korea out of comedy?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OfCorsica you should.
I'd rather be phishing!
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UK by me.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Why not Eyerish?
In Word you can only store 2 bytes. That is why I use Writer.
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Might as well - remember, Crimea doesn't pay.
Hope I'm not Putin too fine a point on it there...
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Only if you are OK with being Hungary all the time.
“Thinking is the hardest work there is …”
modified 21-Nov-20 21:01pm.
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I'm Russian to the kitchen to Czech the fridge right now!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Careful you don't slip on the Greece, Italya.
/ravi
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Are Icheon to do comedy?
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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Just don't give up your Daytona job.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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I thought they had at least three inertial management units on these babies, and compared results before making key landing decisions?
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Defect rejected: Unable to reproduce on local machine.
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Obligatory XKCD[^]
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Tomaž Štih wrote: I thought
They didn't.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Hi All,
Well interview done, I almost fell off my chair when they apologised for keeping me waiting. They were running late, so they kept me waiting a whole 5 mins !
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